Again, replying to you both
But pulling back a little because you're both rather older than the current influx of teachers I have in mind.

Surely the vocational aim of anyone entering FE (sorry Cavy) should be reasonably defined?

Maybe I'm a bit Ivory Tower here - I always wanted to work with stats, took a degree in Economics and worked in insurance.

I think what I'm driving at is if you're a graduate in Psychology, and you discover that there's 1500 other Psychology graduates chasing 6 jobs and you take the PGCE route...

How motivated are you?
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:32, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I've been out of teaching for a long time
but every time I go back into a classroom or see things like this on TV, I realise it might not be what I do any more, but it;s what I *am*.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)

this^^
When I started teaching it just 'clicked'. Only other time I had this was when I first picked up and used an SLR
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:40, Reply)

I only did my PGCE 2 years ago
Loads of kids have no idea what they want to do at FE level, but have an idea of what they like. Often they do subjects they never had the chance to do in school.

FE also has loads of kids who did badly at school, but are actually quite bright at certain things - we get loads of them in our department. Often they need some help with direction.

At 16 it's hard to know enough of the way the world works to know how to get jobs (I still thought you applied for a job as 'Photographer' hahah)

I originally didn't want to teach, but I ran some workshops when I was running a business and fucking LOVED it. Later a did a little cover in a college for a guy who was off (with stress) and applied for my PGCE at the start of the next college year.

It's HARD but it's often the most awesome thing in the world
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:38, Reply)

It definitely is.
My qualification is for 11-18, but I would love to teach primary. I could handle KS5, because anyone studying there generally wants to be there. And classes aren't 30+ students.

I must look into going back at some point.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:44, Reply)

post-compulsory is mine (16+)
although it's a myth they all want to be there. A surprising number (especially on EMA) are there because they don't know what else to do.

Mind you, I wouldn't do secondary or primary, that would kill me. Plus, it's the subject I really love
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:46, Reply)

our granddaughter wanted to take photography as her 4th AS.
We talked her into doing maths instead. I'm sure she appreciates it....
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:48, Reply)

never let her take photography as a 4th AS
everyone thinks it's a piece of piss, then we work them like dogs and they either quit or end up doing it as their main subject :) There's a lot of working your own time.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:52, Reply)

I sincerely applaud both of you
As above - I've run production lines of 300 people, I've managed Lloyds brokerages.

There's no way I could teach kids.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:45, Reply)

Thank you :D

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:47, Reply)

Most of them aren't total bastards.
I've actually come across more nice ones thatn shitehawks in the last few months. It's been quite surprising.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:50, Reply)