get new friends.
although I had a few clamouring for the army to be sent in.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:19, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

When it was actually kicking off
I was hoping they would actually send in someone to control the crowds. But now it's all over, I think you should be able to take a step back and try and be a bit rational.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:21, Reply)

it's hard to see what can be done to stem that sort of thing if enough people are involved.
I find it hard to see how it be dealt with in the aftermath though. Some people will go to jail, some will get curews, ASBO type things etc. but what difference will that make? not a lot.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:22, Reply)

It's the clamour for revenge
and not accepting that there might be underlying reasons behind the rioting, even though that doesn't actually justify the riots occuring.

People seem incapable of seeing this.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:23, Reply)

I'm not convinced that there was much behind the rioting in the end
to being with perhaps, but there was a lot of "hang on, people are burning and smashing stuff and nicking stuff. I'm having a bit of that action!"
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:24, Reply)

Really?
You don't think having several generations grow up with no prospects for jobs or education and not trying to help them might make them a bit disposed towards not caring about other peoples feelings?

Don't get me wrong, they are still cunts, but even cunts can be helped to not be cunts, or at least have kids who aren't cunts.

It's a big problem, you're not going to fix it by cutting benefits or any other quick idea.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

I do agree with what you are saying.
but what I think I am trying to get at is that while those conditions may be what has caused people to be that way, the recent stuff is not about them protesting against that situation.

does that make sense?

gotta go now.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

Oh yeah, it wasn't a protest
but it was violence born of the general situation, if it hadn't been this trigger, it would likely have been something else with the same result.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:34, Reply)

This is more or less what I think
I don't tend to think that looking at the background should effect how the perpetrators are punished, but on the other hand if we don't want shit like this happening again, we need to look at underlying causes.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:37, Reply)