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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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That's the kind of disengenous argument I really hate though
I don't like the fact that some people think that the BNP hold valid views. But the way to deal with those people is not to say "your views are invalid and you cannot be represented" because that simply means it's also perfectly logical to say to all Lib Dem voters that their views aren't valid either.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:26, 1 reply, 14 years ago)
I know.
But there's a massive part of me (cocklols) that says that repugnant views should be excluded from the main decision making system. The liberal, intelligent part of me says that the best way to deal with these people is to engage with them publicly and expose them as idiots.

Hence me engaging with ToryBoy.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:29, Reply)
WTF?
Theres a huge difference between engaging with a conservative/Christian Democrat/Libertarian/Free Marketeer , and an Ultranationalist?
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:30, Reply)
No there isn't.
And religion shouldn't be a part of politics in the UK.

There is no place for it in a secular, civilised democracy.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:31, Reply)

Christian Democracy is the European sense, as in Germany's largest party and a non denominational organisation, not the fundamentalist sense.
And legally the British State is not secular yet, although I'd like it to be.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:33, Reply)
As soon as it's referred to as Christian it stops being nondenominational, you fucking pillock.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:34, Reply)
It accepts people of all faiths and none
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Union_(Germany)

Lets see you take a look at this link and try to paint the largest political party in Europe as some crazy minority outfit.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:36, Reply)
Minority status is not the point.
The point is that religion has no place in state-level decision making, just as it has no place in education. That way lies Syria, Iran, Eire and the USA.

Fucking fruitcakes.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:40, Reply)

They've ruled Germany for 42 years, If they wanted to make it into a Religious state they'd have well succeeded by now.
Anyway wasn't there a saying about the Labour party?
"They're more Methodist than Marx"?
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:45, Reply)
You tell me.
You're the political expert.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:46, Reply)
Yes, yes there was.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:50, Reply)
There was a saying about the Tories in Scotland.
Cunts.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:52, Reply)
Fair enough.
I've no problem with that.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:56, Reply)
You should.
Especially as you claim to be mixed race.

Remember Tebbitt's cricket question? Racist cunts, and you support them. So what does that make you? A cuntfan, that's what?
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:57, Reply)
So you seriously believe that anyone whose political views are to the right of the center is racist?
And anyway, the Cricket Question wasn't ever seriously considered as an actual migration clause, though as a way of measuring national identity it ain't to shabby.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:01, Reply)
Of course it's a fucking shabby way to measure national identity.
Any right wing party tends toward Xenophobia.

And of course I know that it wasn't a migration clause, you bell. It was just Tebbitt showing himself up as a cunt in public.

One can be fiercely proud/ aware of one's status as an outsider/other but still take an active part in the affairs of their adopted country.

I'd advise you to read The Satanic Verses, but it would go way over your head.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:06, Reply)
So you recon that if all mainstream politics was centre-left, this world would have no racism
And would be better in every way?
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:08, Reply)
Yes.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:11, Reply)
Astonishing.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:13, Reply)
Or sarcastic.
You decide.

This is fucking tedious.

Can you no go out and get some bum action or something instead of discussing lolitics on here with people twice your age?

When I was your age I was skating, smoking weed, listening to hip hop and punk rock, fingering girls, watching Taxi Driver, reading and playing videogames.

Before that, I was into politics. Bit like you, but left wing instead of right. Go out and get some bum or something, y'hear me?
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:19, Reply)
I do that, sometimes, apart from the drugs and hip hop.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:21, Reply)
What, bumming?
GAYLOLZ
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:26, Reply)
State educated and from the West Midlands too.
Poor boy, he'll never be a proper Tory.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:02, Reply)
He'll think he's finally getting there
but all the others will be laughing at him and looking down on him behind his back.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:05, Reply)
He could do a Pickles and commit class treason.
Either that, or 'trade' on his minority status and go for the bummer vote.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 22:07, Reply)
Are you some kind of terrorist?
Everyone knows the only way the western world will achieve any kind of security is if it embraces Christian supremacy and purifies the non-believers.

You people put up a good show against the Muslims on Sunday though. Good work there.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:41, Reply)
The bummers will be the next Muslims, you mark my words.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:43, Reply)
HAHAHA
There is a player for Borussia Dortsmund called "Gotze"
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:30, Reply)
LOL!
SRSLY BBZ?

I Wonder What He Thinks About Proporshunal Representatives?
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:35, Reply)
I don't know
but they just equalised. The cunts.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:36, Reply)
Is this fitba?
I don't do fitba chat.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:37, Reply)
I'm listening to the new Pete Murray album
it's not hip hop so I'm sure you've never heard of him.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:38, Reply)
I'm not all about the hip hop.
Listening to this the now www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LV9HN_c5s
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:42, Reply)
I just saw that. 88th minute.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:38, Reply)
We're totally finishing about 8th or 9th this season.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:40, Reply)
If we're lucky

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:41, Reply)
I can see Bristol City getting relegated this season.
Which will probably spell administration.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:42, Reply)
You two are professional footballers?

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:42, Reply)
Yes
this is another reason you should come to Montys bash. You get to say that you were at a party that I didn't go to.

And you could come to the internet hardnuts lunch.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:43, Reply)
Cannae go.
No spare pennies for the train ticket.
(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:45, Reply)
Where would you be travelling from?

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:47, Reply)
York.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:49, Reply)
12th man innit.

(, Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:48, Reply)

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