It's true though, I hear all the time "I hate working for my boss, him making all that money off me, I should be working for myself"
But they don't want to risk and invest money into equipment, they don't want to go out and get clients, they don't want to do accounts. They just see that they're working for X and hour and that's getting billed out at 3 times that, and figure they deserve the full 3 times.

I hate the attitude that all buisness men are evil, screwing people over, and it's normally said by bitter people who wishes they had the guts and drive to go for it themselves.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:17, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

You're getting some kind of treat for this.

( thealternativefact, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:20, Reply)

When you've heard it from me Gonz, you can tar me with that brush.
My job is a bit dull, but I'm happy enough with it and choose to keep it because it pays quite well and is generally non-stressful. anything else I say is either an exception to that rule or exaggerated for comic effect.

I don't think all business men are evil, but I do think it takes a degree of ruthlessness to be successful in that field, which I do not possess and do not wish to posess, which is why it's something I've never pursued. I like and admire my bosses for what it's worth, but mostly because they treat their staff very well. I think the big house in Islington, the kids in private schools and the impending retirement at an early age are perfectly good (and well deserved) rewards for the work they have done.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:24, Reply)

Determination rather than Ruthlessness.... you don't have to shit over other people to get to the top, you just have to be the good at what you do.
So there you go, your own boss is an example of a buisnessman who isn't 'shafting people', but you said most of them. It's not even close to 'most of them'.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:32, Reply)

One of the reasons I like my bosses iis that that are, in my limited experience, exceptional.
And I did mean ruthlessness.

I think at this point we'd have to get into a discussion of the merits of capitalism.

On which, I fear we are destined not to agree, so I'd suggest we agree to disagree on this point Gonz.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:39, Reply)

I know you meant ruthlessness, you are wrong, ruthlessness implies you'd throw a granny down the stairs as you climb up them. Some people can side step the granny on the way up.
It takes drive and determination to become succesfull at anything at all, including buisness.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:48, Reply)

I think at this point we'd have to get into a discussion of the merits of capitalism.
On which, I fear we are destined not to agree, so I'd suggest we agree to disagree on this point Gonz.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:59, Reply)

Yeah', I guess so.
I can see that being the best at something can be viewed differntly if you consider that 'something' with negative conulatations.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Tell you what, lets have a chat about it over a pint some time
Probably more fun.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 14:21, Reply)