According to the news report I've just heard
Steve Jobs has been compared to Einstein and Edison.

FUCK OFF. He was a great businessman and had great ideas and managed to sell people products that they didn't need and, in the case of the ipad, are actually entirely pointless but have now become somehow invaluable, but he didn't personally invent the fucking technology or come up with a new theory that changed the way we look at science.

Why is it, every time someone dies they can't just have been pretty good at something, or a nice person, they have to be the greatest example of what they did since some other iconic dead person.

I fucking hate people.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:03, 152 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Relax Al, it's only the media.

( girlinthehole, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:06, Reply)

Shan't
*stomps around and complains loudly to his empty office*
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:09, Reply)

Nice bloke dies from very unpleasant disease
Newspapers decide to be nice about him.
Why not just join in for a little while rather than have a good internet cry and compound my initial assessment of you as an autistic, bitter, jealous housewhale?
( WormuIus, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:06, Reply)

It's not just being nice
it's deifying him.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:09, Reply)

I've not read a single article about Steve Jobs in which he was ascribed God-like abilities
or in which it was claimed that he has now become a God following his death.
( WormuIus, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:10, Reply)

I imagine you have a lot of time to read since you don't have a job.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:12, Reply)

Ha!

( girlinthehole, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:12, Reply)

+s

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:19, Reply)

Housewhale is the insult of the day!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:32, Reply)

Next week I am going to make my students sit through a lengthy tribute to Steve Jobs entiitled "Death is the ultimate User Experience".
It will be formed of a montage of YouTube clips of product launches and iPhone ringtones. Everyone will have to wear black polonecks. We will all weep discreetly into white handkerchiefs with a small silver apple embroidered on them.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:07, Reply)

You have put a lot of thought into this
They also need to wear shit "sneakers"
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:33, Reply)

I approve of your final comment.

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:08, Reply)

There are more Apple fanboys around than for almost any other product
there are certainly more Apple fanboys around than there are normal, well-adjusted people that quite like Apple products.

Expect a lot of this over-the-top tearing of hair over the next few weeks. Along with interminable amounts of memorial style programming.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:08, Reply)

Also a lot of apple fanboys in Meeja.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:14, Reply)

Apple users.
Smug gits.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Basically.
The products them selves are OK, if you like paying too much for something that does less but is pretty, but the intolerable smugness is unbearable.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:18, Reply)

There's a pirate version of Apple kicking about.
The i-patch.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:23, Reply)

This is a bit of a misnomer really.
The vast majority of Apple users are perfectly fine. A few high profile smug wankers about it doesn't mean that the guy sitting to my left with an iPhone is any different to the guy sitting to my right with his android phone.

The media led 'All Apple is wonderful' brigade of Stephen Frys is no better or worse than the 'All Apple is shit and all users are cunts' brigade of Charlie Brookers.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:24, Reply)

Charlie Brooker is a traitor to the cause
and now has an iPad.

And the guy on your left paid more for less because it looked pretty, therefore I, personally, think slightly less of him.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:27, Reply)

If Apple toned iTunes down
I might be tempted myself. It's just too invasive and restricting for my tastes.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:29, Reply)

I'd like to be able to remove the shit I have no use for, which is pretty hard on apple devices.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:31, Reply)

I dislike anything I can't format and rebuild.
I'd be tempted by an iPhone, since I don't bother with phones much. But, iTunes.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:35, Reply)

you represent about 1% of the population
everone else wants something that works straight out of the box with minimal fuss.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:38, Reply)

And Apple did that very well
by stopping everybody from doing anything Apple didn't want them to do.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:39, Reply)

exactly,
we luddites want an easy life; I would happily have a Mac, i-phone/pod/Tv etc just because by having them all the same they will sync easily.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:41, Reply)

Yes they will, it creates a captive market
which in turn eventually creates a monopoly.

Apple are basically forcing their users to be dependent on them.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:50, Reply)

Hush!
you're only 1% of the population, doesn't matter if it's the smartest percent.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:53, Reply)

Genuine question -
what is it that people find wrong with iTunes? I use it, but have nothing to compare it to, so I don't know what's not good about it relative to other options.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:32, Reply)

I can't work out where to put the needle
/luddite
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:33, Reply)

Also, you can't skin up on an mp3

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:34, Reply)

memories
a cassette box full of spliff and a trip to the park, good times.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:37, Reply)

It's Memorex
you idiot.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:41, Reply)

very good fat man

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:43, Reply)

Or is it real?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:44, Reply)

iTunes is fine
so long as you're happy to only use it to buy music, don't try to play stuff bought on iTunes on a non-iTunes device, don't mind the thing bloatwaring the fuck out of your PC and are OK with it force-updating and bombing you out of whatever it is you're doing at the time.

I'd like to think it's changed, it's been a while since I last had to use it.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:34, Reply)

What do you use instead?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:36, Reply)

Torrents, mostly
CDex for ripping.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:37, Reply)

how do you maike music go onto your ipod?
I torrent lots, but i-tunes often gets grumpy with the results
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:39, Reply)

I don't use an iPod
iPods require iTunes.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:47, Reply)

I don't think it auto updates anymore
it's often prompting me to update, but I just say no unless I know I am not going to be using the computer for a while.

And yeah, I only use it for music, so anything else it may do doesn't affect me.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:37, Reply)

I'm going to knock up a £15 Steve Jobs memorial iPhone app.
Just a picture of him and some angels.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:17, Reply)

4eva in or harts

( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:18, Reply)

And a £10 android app which is just a picture of him with HAHAHAHAHA HE'S DEAD ANDROID WIN
played on a loop.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:24, Reply)

Agreed on all points.
With the added question: Why do we have to respect business men for being good at what they do? Most of what they do is shafting people anyway and surely their many millions are reward enough, it's not like they set up a business empire to benefit us.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:13, Reply)

Haha bitter at being the tea boy

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:24, Reply)

I imagine it's the creation of jobs and extra taxes they pay
good for the economy and that
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:25, Reply)

Which is of course the reason they do it.
I'm not saying they should be hated for it, just that the primary motivation is not about philanthropy. Being f=good at making money is no more admirable than being good at cleaning toilets, arguable less so because it has greater intrinsic rewards.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:30, Reply)

I'm sure the people benefiting from Bill Gates being an all round nice guy would happily call you a myopic moron

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:33, Reply)

there is a lot more skill in making money than in cleaning the bogs
and by making money, his company has provided work for thosands of people, paid millions in tax and has made the world a shinier place
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:35, Reply)

This is all true.
and I can see respect for skill (although it leaves me cold in the same way skill at football does), but the tax is not a voluntary donation is it? It's something the government forces you to pay. Now the charitable works of someone like Bill Gates, for example are laudable, because they are done as a free choice.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:42, Reply)

Most of that fortune came from illegal
monopolistic business practices. I'm a Windows developer but I still say he's an arse.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:57, Reply)

Double glazing salesmen eh?
well whatever title makes you feel better about ripping off old ladies
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:58, Reply)

Apple are every bit as monopolistic as Windows were/are
But Apple are very, very good at presenting what they're doing as being the next greatest thing and the reinvention of the wheel.

The fact that Apple will only let you play stuff bought through their own store and you can only reliably synch Apple products with other Apple products passes most people by.

Edit: They don't even support Flash, so you have to view the iInternet, too.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:00, Reply)

That's not a monopoly
That's, "We make the hardware, we make the software, it works how we want it to." Windows got its market share from being a platform that could run on anyone's hardware. And when they had the majority of the desktop market they abused their position. The EU didn't fine them several billion Euros for shits and giggles.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have lots of old ladies to rip off.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:09, Reply)

All true
same is true of apple as far as I know, except they keep it all.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:09, Reply)

Microsoft keeps it all, it's Bill who gives his own money away.

( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:32, Reply)

fair enough.
Still more that Steve does.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:44, Reply)

Spoken like a true commie

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:30, Reply)

True, true.
Fell free to disagree, I'm up for a rational argument on this one, but I can't see anything massively praiseworthy in making tons of money. Not to say you shouldn't do it, but surely you do it to make your self money, rather than fro any other reason.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:34, Reply)

I don't see what's wrong with wanting to be successful?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:35, Reply)

I don't think I said there was anything wrong with it.
I don't see why it should command respect either.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:39, Reply)

Because the successful person has worked hard and achieved a lot
I'm not saying they should be getting Nobel prizes, but i respect the husband and wife who started my company and grew it into a global market leader, providing jobs for it's staff from the Uk to india and the US and value for our clients that is ultimately passed onto nyou, the consumer.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:48, Reply)

Success is a reward for achieving your objectives, and it's respect-worthy to do something you set out to do.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:18, Reply)

That's not why people are gushing over this guy
I'm writing this post on an HTC phone. A phone which would not exist were it not for the smartphone market that came from Apple's success. Same goes for mp3 players and loads of other stuff. There are very few companies who can make a product people want to queue in the middle of the night to get hold of.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:39, Reply)

Unless you live in bongo bongo land
and the company in question makes food.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:40, Reply)

1: makes vibrator based on Ape penis
2: Hypes
3: Opens swish store
4: ???????
5: Cock Profits
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:40, Reply)

You'll need to make it bigger than the actual version
if you want it to house any batteries.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:44, Reply)

It's mains powered

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:46, Reply)

Smartphones, possibly
although I suspect there were smart phones around before the iPhone, but MP3 players were around (and better) before the iPod, I had one, it was very nice thank you.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:44, Reply)

I had a Rio, which I loved
but they went bust
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:46, Reply)

Creative MP3 players
were, and possibly are awesome. The aluminium fag packet I had was better (for my tastes anyway) than an iPod and far cheaper.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:48, Reply)

I had an Archos 10 Jukebox
I loved it. But mp3 players as a concept didn't truly take off until after Apple got in there. Same with phones. I can't remember the exact quote but around the time of the first iPhone release there was a company statement from Nokia along the lines of, "We're not worried, we're the biggest phone maker in the world, we know what our customers want." No they didn't! Apple raise the bar in pretty much every area they try to go for.

I've never bought an Apple product and I doubt I ever will but I appreciate what they've done for technology.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:53, Reply)

They didn't invent the MP3, they didn't even invent the MP3 player.
But they turned it into a viable product for the masses and attached an ecosystem to it that allowed for people to get hold of the music legally and fairly.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:08, Reply)

Oh fuck off.
Shafting people? Oh', yeah', 'cus if wasn't for that pesky buisnessman doing the work and taking the risks that you don't do, and getting rewarded for it.... you would have done that yourself and been in their shoes.

Forget about the millions they bring to the economy that pays for hospitals, schools, police, etc.
Forget about the 100s of 1000s that have employment because of the success of those buisness men.
Forget the huge amounts of charity that gets donated through buisness.

One attitude I fucking hate is the "They all screw over the little guy", it's that kind of OH WOE IS MEism that really gets me. They're the ones who mortgaged everything they got to get where they are, they're the ones who are up all night worrying about having to sack people the next day.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:05, Reply)

Well put.
It is incredibly stressful (and also incredibly rewarding at times) establishing and growing a business.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:07, Reply)

And I never said doing it was a bad thing
Nor does it make you a saint, we all do stressful stuff, very rarely does it gain us respect, or for that matter money.

Steve Jobs did hard things, some of them I probably couldn't have done had I wanted to, some of them I'd not have chosen to do if I could. He did very well out of it, arguably the world did well out of it too.

I would, however argue that the world doing well out of it was not his primary motivation, or even his secondary one. Thus he was not morally a better person for it.

I have more respect for people who do hard thankless jobs for little pay, with the motivation of helping others.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:19, Reply)

I also have respect for people who do hard thankless jobs for little pay, with the motivation of helping others.

I also have respect for those who take risks (remortgage, borrow etc.) to get something going and importantly create employment for other people. Yes I have made money from having my own business - not as much as when I worked for large corporates - but the greatest satisfaction comes from adding value by what you do, having more lifestyle flexibility than you get working for someone else and for me having created employment for people.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:23, Reply)

Good for you, glad it makes you happy.
And maybe it's because I don't know you personally, but I don't see why it should change how much I like you.

That may be part of it actually, the whole not knowing thing, oh well, not like we're going to come to some definitive agreement, is it?
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:28, Reply)

I'm not saying you should like me (you probably wouldn't - most people don't), but I think you should perhaps have a little more respect for those who have taken risks and created value.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:30, Reply)

To break it down:
Risk taking: depends on the risk and the motivation. Risk taking per se is not a good or bad thing.

Created value: We probably disagree on the meaning of this term. I'd say creating value would involve taking raw materials and adding your work and skill to make them more valuable. I'm not saying bussnies men/starters/owners do not do this, just that people seem to imbue their doing it with some magical significance that makes it more important than what, say, a carpenter does.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:36, Reply)

Oh gonz!
*canned laughter*
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:12, Reply)

It's true though, I hear all the time "I hate working for my boss, him making all that money off me, I should be working for myself"
But they don't want to risk and invest money into equipment, they don't want to go out and get clients, they don't want to do accounts. They just see that they're working for X and hour and that's getting billed out at 3 times that, and figure they deserve the full 3 times.

I hate the attitude that all buisness men are evil, screwing people over, and it's normally said by bitter people who wishes they had the guts and drive to go for it themselves.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:17, Reply)

You're getting some kind of treat for this.

( thealternativefact, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:20, Reply)

When you've heard it from me Gonz, you can tar me with that brush.
My job is a bit dull, but I'm happy enough with it and choose to keep it because it pays quite well and is generally non-stressful. anything else I say is either an exception to that rule or exaggerated for comic effect.

I don't think all business men are evil, but I do think it takes a degree of ruthlessness to be successful in that field, which I do not possess and do not wish to posess, which is why it's something I've never pursued. I like and admire my bosses for what it's worth, but mostly because they treat their staff very well. I think the big house in Islington, the kids in private schools and the impending retirement at an early age are perfectly good (and well deserved) rewards for the work they have done.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:24, Reply)

Determination rather than Ruthlessness.... you don't have to shit over other people to get to the top, you just have to be the good at what you do.
So there you go, your own boss is an example of a buisnessman who isn't 'shafting people', but you said most of them. It's not even close to 'most of them'.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:32, Reply)

One of the reasons I like my bosses iis that that are, in my limited experience, exceptional.
And I did mean ruthlessness.

I think at this point we'd have to get into a discussion of the merits of capitalism.

On which, I fear we are destined not to agree, so I'd suggest we agree to disagree on this point Gonz.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:39, Reply)

I know you meant ruthlessness, you are wrong, ruthlessness implies you'd throw a granny down the stairs as you climb up them. Some people can side step the granny on the way up.
It takes drive and determination to become succesfull at anything at all, including buisness.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:48, Reply)

I think at this point we'd have to get into a discussion of the merits of capitalism.
On which, I fear we are destined not to agree, so I'd suggest we agree to disagree on this point Gonz.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:59, Reply)

Yeah', I guess so.
I can see that being the best at something can be viewed differntly if you consider that 'something' with negative conulatations.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Tell you what, lets have a chat about it over a pint some time
Probably more fun.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 14:21, Reply)

Now some cunt in my building has a baby which I can hear screaming.
I'm going to have to turn my radio up at this rate, and I can't concentrate when the music is too loud.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Morning vodka takes the edge off having to speak to people.
Neat, obviously.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1380615
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:25, Reply)

Fuck.
I hate it when you make me laugh.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:26, Reply)

I know.
It's such a rare occurrence that you have to mark it on the calendar as a reminder.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:44, Reply)

*Swoons*
DG has the hots for me!
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:16, Reply)

Totally, man.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:18, Reply)

Time for that mastodon cinema song

( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:33, Reply)

I think they should make an entire album of self righteous
propositions such as this one.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRVt1clJjgw
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:35, Reply)

I've no idea when they made that, but it doesn't really sound much like their current stuff
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wy_mXuEsP0&feature=related

This is funny though.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:40, Reply)

You've totally overdosed on Elmyr

( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:47, Reply)

iAgree

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:16, Reply)

iLike

( girlinthehole, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:20, Reply)

It's not just this though.
Every schoolkid that dies of being murdered / run over / trapped in a stolen car driven by their mate etc is always described as being popular / much loved / talented / the school comedian and all that stuff. I'm just waiting for the day when some kid pops it and their schoolteachers and fellow pupils universally have nothing good to say about them whatsoever.

"Yeah, Trevor. He was a right cunt. Always nicking cars and bunking off. Thick as pig shit as well. It's probably just as well he copped it; he'd have just gone on the dole as soon as he left school anyway and cost the country a fucking fortune. Burial's too good for him, he should have been catapulted into the middle of the nearest land fill site. Save wasting money on good mahogany."
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:27, Reply)

yeah it's almost like people have respect for the dead
and want to lessen the trauma on their family and loved ones or something. The whole world is MAD
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:29, Reply)

not that you need to be cuntish to the family
but being dead alone does not make you a better person, or automatically deserving of respect.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:32, Reply)

I didn't say it did, you can be a cunt to anyone you like
but when that person's dead the only people you'd be upsetting by being honest is their grieving family, who might not be cunts
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:34, Reply)

It's genetic obviously

(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:36, Reply)

True.
I do see your point, but I also think it goes too far sometimes and if I had nothing good to say I'd rather say nothing than lie.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:37, Reply)

Then again, they might be.
I was just making the point that it can't be possible for every kid that dies in tragic circumstances to be a perfect little golden child.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:40, Reply)

I do remember some yoofs being killed joyriding about 20 years ago.
And when the news interviewed the parents they were full of indignation about them being referred to as 'joyriders'. The father actually insisted they were 'professional car thieves'.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:42, Reply)

haha
I like this
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:43, Reply)

I did a facepalm when I saw him being interviewed.
The bloke got all exasperated and pointy shouty.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:47, Reply)

No parent will admit their child is a little shit.
The number of parents I've heard say 'he's a good boy really. He's never like that at home.'
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:55, Reply)

Well that would be an admission of failure on their part.
Shit child = shit parents*

*Yes I know there are exceptions to this.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:01, Reply)

obviously not
but it would be extremely insensitive for anyone in the media to go 'WE'RE SO GLAD THAT LITTLE TOERAG GOT HIT BY A BUS'
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:43, Reply)

Personally I'd pay good money to hear Fiona Bruce say that on the six o' clock news.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:48, Reply)

hear see
ay t
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:44, Reply)

Equally though
I think in the case of most people, you'd be hard pushed to find at least one person who didn't think they were great, and that's all you need.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:43, Reply)

JMG

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:44, Reply)

Ha.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:45, Reply)

And when anyone does a Moaty
the neighbours never say 'I knew he was a wrongun. I told the police, and they said I was just being paranoid. Well, they're not laughing now, are they?'
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:54, Reply)

It also helps to die young
When your news item contains a description of you are and what you did, you know you've had a good innings.
( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:28, Reply)

I think I'm now at the age where if I dropped dead
They wouldn't refer to me as having died young.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:53, Reply)

"We give thanks that she lasted as long as she did."

( djtrialprice, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:11, Reply)

He looked like he had I-AIDS

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 11:31, Reply)

That's well harsh
Jobs never blew up a Japanese city like Einstein did. Yes, Einstein, personally. He pulled the trigger and everything. Also, Einstein had no involvement whatsoever with Pixar and is therefore worse than Steve Jobs due to the Ratatouille Principle.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:19, Reply)

Show your working on the Ratatouille Principle
I now have MDs from the quack. I have been told they will make me drowsy. This is a good thing as I intend to take them tonight to enable me to sleep
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:41, Reply)

I see what you did there
Hope they help. The Ratatouille Principle is fairly straightforward, anyone with a degree of involvement in its making is better than everyone without an equivalent.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:44, Reply)

I did not enjoy the film Ratatouille
nor do I like the foodstuff
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:02, Reply)

Two cities.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:00, Reply)

Looks like poor dead Charles Napier has gone and 'done a Farrah'
At least he had a life filled with humongous breasts.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:24, Reply)

What's this about Charles Napier?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:37, Reply)

He's died

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:37, Reply)

'Done a Farrah' though?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:44, Reply)

Farrah died the same day as Michael Jackson, so she was barely noticed

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:45, Reply)

Oh I see!
Ah, poor Charles.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:45, Reply)

Farrah Fawcett's dead?

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:48, Reply)

Yes.
The angel is with the angels, etc.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:49, Reply)

You absolute bender

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:51, Reply)

bender charlie
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:55, Reply)

A classic example
of the sequins calling the chiffon black. Or something.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:56, Reply)

Pot - Kettle - Pink

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:58, Reply)

Jobs was no Einstein, but could be compared to Edison.
He had lots of people doing the doing R and D in his labs. Took all the credit and owned the patents, gave the world stuff it didn't need (phonograph - everything with an "i" in front of it.

Edison introduced commercially viable electric power to the home. I don't think Jobby can match that.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:31, Reply)

I like this
Well put sir

If I:

a. Owned a hat
b. Wore said hat

I would doff it now
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:59, Reply)

Well, cheers.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:06, Reply)

HAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaa
a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/299946_10150410299115730_626065729_10624015_1405513578_n.jpg
fucking hell
(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:37, Reply)

Just seen this excellent one on /board
www.b3tards.com/u/a609ede35986cfd048a1/jobs-funeral-holding-wrong.jpg
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:38, Reply)

Pure genius that one!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:42, Reply)

I love it.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:45, Reply)

sh+
/kroney
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 12:59, Reply)

he should have a i-pad set into his gravestone with a picture of his face having put through 'fat booth'
He might look like he did before his pancreas exploded
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 13:00, Reply)