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I'm going with 'go fuck themselves'

(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:41, 2 replies, latest was 13 years ago)
Or get an IVA

(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:43, Reply)
This is NO time for a pint, Batters

(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:43, Reply)
it is ALWAYS time for a pint.

(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:45, Reply)
Good point

(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:45, Reply)
that certainly was the tone of the original post, yes

(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:44, Reply)
Not that I think that it's morally right.
But the money has to come from somewhere. Either incomes up or prices down, it's not like renting is that much cheaper, just a much smaller deposit.
(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:52, Reply)
the problem with prices down
is that many people have really stretched themselves to buy. so if the prices drop, they are screwed. the banks will not write off the difference.
(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:54, Reply)
Oh I agree.
But surely they cannot go on going up forever, or do I not know what I am talking about? I'm quite open to this, most economics feels like a confusing joke to me.
(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 11:56, Reply)
i think the massive rise was probably unsustainable but generally there should be a slow steady increase in line with everything else
my flat went up by over £100k in the space of about a year, and although i had spent a lot on rewiring etc, that is simply ridiculous. mind you, some 3 years later, it's still valued at the higher level, just not gone up any further
(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 12:01, Reply)
I think it's the "in-line with everything else"but that has gone wrong.
25 years ago my dad earning, relatively, not much more than I am now could buy a 4 bedroom house for his family. Now this is most definitely not the case. Sadly short of a massive crash in house prices, or a very long term freeze while pay catches up I cannot see this state returning.
(, Mon 21 Nov 2011, 12:05, Reply)

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