I seem to remember Vancouver often comes top of the "best cities to live in" lists
However this is based on cleanliness, lack of crime, safe cheap transport, low house prices etc,etc; boring, boring, boring...

Cities should be a bit grimey, have an edge, a slightly dangerous side. That is where they excel and that is why they drive creativity in music, fashion, lierature, new companies and the best restaurants to name but a few.

this is why London is excellent, the incredible mix of socioeconomic ares, the large immigrant population add a vibrancy, variation and excitment and you just don't find in parochial towns and cities.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:21, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Manchester is like that but on a smaller scale obviously.
I enjoyed my ten years there.
( girlinthehole, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:24, Reply)

I've never been so couldn't really comment...
i suppose i was really suggesting that places like Reading, Milton Keynes and their Northern equivilants are blackholes for the soul
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:25, Reply)

Vancouver also has some of the best marijuana in the world.
I'd live there.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:27, Reply)

You'd get bored in 10 mins

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:29, Reply)

bor ston
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:35, Reply)

I find being stoned can really help with relieving boredom.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:46, Reply)

It really, really does.
There is nothing like going for a hike and not being able to work out if everything really is that beautiful.

Ohhhh man and wreck beach is excellent for being naked, stoned and looking at nature.
( wanderlust, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 11:43, Reply)