I don't want to justify the bollocks that they produce,
but the main problem with the dwp and nhs systems is that the contracts change every month or so with new requirements procedures access patterns etc, which makes designing them an incredibly complicated bodge job.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 11:55, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

It's both sides.
They don't bother varying the contract when they make changes too, which makes it incredibly difficult to manage. Then, when the IT provider puts in a massive bill, it gets paid without too much scrutiny.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)

Too fucking true,
you should have seen some of the things I've had to point out after reading a contract that's been signed off.
Most recent was "erm who pays for this?" project manager "I'm not sure but I'm sure its come up"
(PsychoChomp, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 12:10, Reply)

I read in the metro yesterday one of the major guys behind the Obama campaign as replicated Facebook but with a buisness in mind, and that they're going to just give it to hte NHS for organisational issues.
Makes sense to me.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:03, Reply)

Ok, only looking at page titles here, but we're talking about the billions....
www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=NHS+computer+system#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=NHS+computer+system+cost&pbx=1&oq=NHS+computer+system+cost&aq=f&aqi=g-j1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2833l3571l0l3707l5l4l0l0l0l0l251l661l0.1.2l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=79c69f040104696b&biw=1353&bih=805

.... Google themselves wouldn't cost "billions" to repoduce.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:04, Reply)

... purely on a software level, to repoduce... not talking about IPs and buisness logic. I'm talking about the software and hardware it's run on.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:05, Reply)