he won't ever cheer for england in any sport

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:23, 1 reply, 12 years ago)

Why not?
It's obviously not because he doesn't enjoy sport, tickets to a test match at the Oval are not cheap. He's shelled out to go cheer against his home country.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:26, Reply)

well it's only half his home country
and i think people have been quite quick to point this out in very nasty ways over the years.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:28, Reply)

Yeah, and cheering against the home sports team
is definitely the way to get back at them.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:29, Reply)

Because everything someone does should be with the sole intention of garnering the approval of others?

(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:32, Reply)

What?

( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:33, Reply)

Do you really need this explained?
Swipes ex is racially abused, he also doesn't support england for some reason, I don't know if the two are connected. You suggest that he is really sticking it to the racists by cheering against their team, and I point out that it's possible for people to do things for reasons other than the need to get approval from other people.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:36, Reply)

I do enjoy how you can adopt a condescending attitude at the drop of a hat
whilst simulaneously jumping to a conclusion with no basis in the reality of what was said.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:37, Reply)

I know how he can do so
I suspect you do too
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:38, Reply)

Hang on, I think I might know this one.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:39, Reply)

Is it because this is the internet?
Or is it because I frequently point out when people I know say things that are entirely indefensible?
(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:40, Reply)

A little from column A, a little from column B
and a lot from mystery column C, helpfully marked "Al is a prick". Although I suspect there may be some crossover with column A. If only The Mighty Badger was here.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:44, Reply)

Awwww, I love how you still think I'm a prick.
I think you're a lovely chap, even if you did unfriend me on facebook. I like your red braces BTW. You look like the chap that does the business news on the BBC Breakfast.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:46, Reply)

I'm assured you're a lovely chap IRL, hence my column A/C crossover concession above
As it stands I have nothing to base my opinion on save your internet prickishness
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:48, Reply)

it's not the team he doesn't like, it's the fans
he has a point about football fans. a lot of them really are cunts.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:33, Reply)

Best cheer against them, then. That'll change their minds AND their behaviour.

( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:34, Reply)

Yes, it is clearly never worth doing anything as just a point of principle.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:39, Reply)

If you're going to do something as a point of principle
it'd probably be a good idea to do something that isn't petty and pointless.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:40, Reply)

Why? Why shouldn't people do anything they want to as a point of principle?
I have never had a Big Mac, and I intend never to eat one, simply because I can. That is an entirely pointless thing, but I'm still going to see it through.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:43, Reply)

Whether this is a reasonable comparison based on your reasons is moot
My issue with Swipey's Bent Cunt Ex (SBCE please, I'm lazy) is that he's spending a shitload of money on indulging his bitter pettiness. Not buying Big Macs costs you nowt, which I assume is part of your reasoning.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:45, Reply)

I daresay SBCE likes cricket and so would enjoy being at a game regardless of who won
I certainly get the impression that cricket fans really enjoy the event more than the result, so it's not a waste of money to indulge his petiness, it's spending money on an even he enjoys, and while he's there he gets to cheer on the team that are currently winning (assuming they are, I haven't looked at the score). But even if the team he likes lost, he would still have seen a (hopefully) world class cricket match.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:48, Reply)

Good point
I suppose it depends on whether he goes to see a great game or goes to a great game in order to cheer against the English.

More amusingly, I accidentally typed "biter pettiness" in my post above, appropriate as the man is so gay he makes me look like Oliver Reed by comparison.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:55, Reply)

Good luck to you, Al.
Where did I say that you, or he, shouldn't? What I did do was strongly suggest that I had no respect at all for it. Which I don't, on account of it being, in my opinion, facile and motivated more from spite than principle.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:46, Reply)

Taking it out on the national sports team is no way to get back at the actions of a few pricks
I can see his refusing to support England on account of the English but going to expensive lengths to decry them seems excessively twattish
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:35, Reply)

What a prick eh?
then again I always cheer against the bent team
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:28, Reply)

I always cheer the other team whenever England play.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:34, Reply)

Yes, for entirely specious reasons.
Much like all the Welsh I've met that do the same for similarly irrational causes.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:36, Reply)

being anti- England in sports
Is not the same as being anti English.

You do realise this, right? It's a sporting rivalry. I know plenty of Leeds fans who would rather cheer on Gallatasserai (sp?) than Man United. Same thing.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:41, Reply)

It's not a sporting rivalry.
"Rivalry" requires it be a two way deal. The English do not cheer against the Scottish.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:42, Reply)

Indeed, at the Wimbledon final, I imagine a lot of English people were cheering Murray on.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:45, Reply)

Yes, they were.

( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:47, Reply)

no, it is a rivalry in that we tend to enjoy seeing our bigger and more skilled neighbour lose.
I have no beef at all with the English, I have lived and worked in England tor ten years. Having a beef with the people as a whole would be irrational and silly. Sport is just a game remember, and the schadenfreude when, say, Germany beat England at football is immense. I can separate
sporting loyalties from real life.

Just to be clear here: supporting the other team in sporting events is not the same as anti-English xenophobia.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:48, Reply)

That's because of your nationality and the inherent hatred of the English it conveys, I assume
If you were English you'd be getting the same treatment as Swipey's cunt of an ex
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:37, Reply)

That'd be the hatred borne for a grudge that became irrelevant some 250 years ago
I assume.
( Kroney, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:40, Reply)

It's very important that Scots assuage their sadness at being worse than the English at all sports
by supporting teams that are sometimes better than the English.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:41, Reply)

I'm clicking this
Because frankly it sums the issue up perfectly.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:46, Reply)

That's becasue you have a Scottish child-mind

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:40, Reply)