He can't fix the economy, he can't reign in the Tories, he can't get re-elected (probably)
But he CAN fix this thread
CLEGG, a hero for our times
( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:50, 1 reply, 13 years ago)

He wasn't elected in the first place...

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:51, Reply)

In what sense was he not elected?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:51, Reply)

In the non sense.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:54, Reply)

He was elected in Sheffield, his constituency?

( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:54, Reply)

And elected as leader of the lib dems.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:55, Reply)

Ah, you meant him personally as opposed to the LibDems.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:55, Reply)

That Gordon Brown wasn't elected either! Except by his constituents and then his party but I didn't vote for him damn it and he sold all my gold to cash4gold!

( Peej, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:56, Reply)

His party at least had enough of a majority to form a government.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:01, Reply)

Cameron didn't.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:03, Reply)

We don't vote for parties, we vote for mps.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:57, Reply)

Yeah soz, I just mean he'll get chucked out as an MP, not as deputy PM
I reckon anyway
( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:58, Reply)

Depends, how big a majority did he have?

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:59, Reply)

29.9%

( Peej, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:00, Reply)

I just meant he's desperately unpopular
I hadn't looked into any numbers
I apologise for everything
( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:03, Reply)

YEAH YOU BETTER FUCKING HAD!
btw do you play starcraft2? want to have a game?
(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:04, Reply)

I have played StarCraft II, but I haven't done much with it
I have a 100% win streak so far. I've played one game
But sure, do I have you on there?
( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:22, Reply)

Dunno
His Majority is pretty high
( Peej, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:00, Reply)

Right don't make flippant remarks about politicians on offtopic
Gotcha
( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:02, Reply)

NO POLITICS CHAT

( Theoban What of it, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:03, Reply)

Chompy gets very upset.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:11, Reply)

SHUT UP

(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:19, Reply)

You don't really understand how voting works in this country.
Nick Clegg was elected, as was Gordon Brown. The people don't elect PMs.
( Kroney, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:03, Reply)

The people didn't vote for a coalition directly either
they just got one by default due to the result and some power politics by one N.Clegg.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:06, Reply)

They voted for the MPs in their constituencies.
We don't vote for which party wins the Parliament. That is not what our votes are for. That is decided by mathematics. The fact that a coalition happened is down to maths.

What I'm saying here is it's nothing to do with us. We vote for our local MPs. That's it. Saying that anyone is unelected or whatever is as inaccurate as it is nonsensical.
( Kroney, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:09, Reply)

Kroney, you are unelected
Is that inaccurate or nonsensical?
( Peej, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:12, Reply)

I am not an MP.

( Kroney, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:13, Reply)

So people vote for the personality of the MP and not the party they represent?
and the bad mid term council election results for any councillor in the same party as the government are down to their bad personalities?
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:14, Reply)

OK, so what happens is a bunch of candidates stand for election where you live.
You vote for them based on their policies. Depending on how many votes they get, somebody wins. We say they've won a "seat". The amount of "seats" across the country are counted. If one party gets the most "seats" (there's one "seat" per physical seat in Parliament, you see) by a particular margin, then they've got a "majority" in Parliament. The head of that party, who's elected by the party members, gets to be PM. That's elected by the party members, not you. He gets to be in Parliament because he also has won a "seat" in his "constituency".

If one party doesn't win enough "seats" to win a "majority", they have to form a "coalition". This is usually done with the party that's come third in the "seat" race.

And that is how it works. If anybody votes for any reason other than the above, such as personalities, they are an idiot. If they vote for a party based on who the leader is, who's probably based in a constituency miles and miles away from them, they're a full-blown fuckwit.
( Kroney, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:19, Reply)

"there's one seat per physical seat in Parliament, you see"
that's not true. They're benches.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:21, Reply)

Sorry, one "seat" per metaphorical seat in Parliament.
Perhaps I should have said "arse-space".
( Kroney, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:22, Reply)

How did that work for Cyril Smith?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:24, Reply)

Your reasoning is flawless
unfortunately one of the drawbacks of democracy is that fuckwits can vote too.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:25, Reply)

Which is why I advocate an enlightened oligarchy based on restricted power of vote.
Power to vote would be granted by an examination which would include, but not be limited to, testing you to make sure you actually know what it is you're voting for.

Many, many people wouldn't bother to sit the test.
( Kroney, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:28, Reply)

By default you mean: because of the result of the election?

(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:10, Reply)