when people say pay rises are no worth it after tax (which I'm aware you didn't)
I always wonder why they didn't turn them down.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:30, 3 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

like what bitchtits says below me.
surely if he asked for a pay cut his employer would be delighted and he's £40 better off. But for some strange reason, this never happens. I do wonder why.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:33, Reply)

b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1983780
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:35, Reply)

http://www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1983785

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:36, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1983789
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:43, Reply)

Easy,
My pay scale has 5 spinal points. Promotion from top of one level of the pay scale to bottom of the other makes me slightly worse off the first year, but years 2-5 I am better off
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:34, Reply)

That only makes sense if rank = wage
I'm sure if you asked nicely enough they would just pay you less for doing the same job...
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:36, Reply)

Public Sector
If I went to them and said "Please pay me £40 less" They would say something like "This is the pay scale, everyone doing your job gets paid this scale, can't make exceptions. Also if they cut my wage by £40 and the next year I got my increment and went and said Oh I want my £40 back they would tell me to fuck off.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:39, Reply)

How many employers do you know who would give you a pay cut one year
and then happily give it back when its good for you?
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:48, Reply)

Mine, for one.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:01, Reply)

Well good for you
But I hope I have explained clearly why I am not handing back my pay rise.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:07, Reply)

because you work for arseholes?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:25, Reply)

No
Its because I get my increment in september but the tax year starts in April. For six months I will be worse off but overall in the year I will break even. Over 5 years I will be much better off.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:32, Reply)

Welcome to the public sector...

(socynicalsohip, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:42, Reply)

THat doesn't make sense, are you saying that they promote you, but lower your wages for the first year?

(Bazongaloid, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:39, Reply)

Oh, I see, you explained below
yes, the tax credits thing is a bit daft.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:39, Reply)

No
I am worse off because my very small pay rise from top of scale 3 to bottom of scale 4 puts me over a child tax credits threshold which means I lose enough tax credits to wipe out my pay rise and more. However in two years time with incremental payrises I will be better off.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:41, Reply)

I really don't understand why the governement doens't see this sort of thing and actually sort it out.
They spend enough time getting fucking KPMG and all those other cunts to pore over the tax codes to make themselves better off that they could easily come up with a better system that doesn't have the possibility of making people worse off by ostensibly earning more money.

I mean the obvious answer is to drop tax credits entirely and make companies pay a proper wage.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:48, Reply)

I understand why its happened as they have to have a threshold somewhere
and I don't mind too much because I am currently on incremental pay. If I wasn't then I might be a bit more pissed off about it.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:50, Reply)

Well, this whole subthread has been fascinating.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:31, Reply)

At least its not whiskey chat

( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:33, Reply)

I think that Tax Chat needs to go on the 'no whiskey chat' list.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 13:42, Reply)

With the stupid child benefit set up
I think there may be situations where you actually do end up worse off after a payrise.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:38, Reply)

Mine was to do with Child Tax Credits
But yes.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:39, Reply)

I still insist on taking all the child benefit even though I may end up having to pay some back due to bonuses

(Bazongaloid, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:40, Reply)

Tax Credits are the devil's sperm
They fuck you over in any way possible. We actually worked out we'd get nothing in the next tax year so cancelled them. This then meant we had to pay the previous years allowance back. Cheers for that, YOU FUCKING CUNTS
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:39, Reply)

They're idiots
My other half is an accountant, she gives them the correct information to the penny. Every year they seem to give us a lower amount than she has worked out. Every year she calls and questions this and every year they send us a cheque because of underpayment. Last years was enough for a midweek break at Disneyland Paris.
( Peej, Wed 5 Jun 2013, 12:43, Reply)