Regarding the Empire
South Africa, Zimbabwe and Sierra Leone have made a far bigger hash of things since home rule than has the States. If we're not prepared to take responsibility for them, we shouldn't get the better territories back, either.

Besides, it's only the Thirteen Colonies we ever control of. We've got no claim at all to the rest.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:54, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

Fucking Rhodesians. What a bunch of cunts.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:55, Reply)

yeah, with their stupid backwards/forwards hair

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:56, Reply)

If the attitude of the Commonwealth countries is anything to go by
a significant majority would quite probably be tempted by British rule again.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:57, Reply)

My father tells me that where he lives in the US, there are those who feel that way for sure.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:59, Reply)

The British politicos of yesteryear were
very different to the dross we have now.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:00, Reply)

There were some bad eggs, as there always are.
A lot of them genuinely cared about improving the lives of the "savages" in their governorship.

The whole "Empire = bad" attitude is largely incorrect.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:02, Reply)

Yup, but will your student Als of the world admit this? No they will not.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:04, Reply)

They've had the conditioning resulting from a hundred years of so of post-colonial guilt.

( Kroney, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:08, Reply)

No excuse.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:16, Reply)

most of these people are clearly completely incapable of ruling themselves, they need us, even if they don't want us

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:14, Reply)

We recognised the Indians rights to their own lands.
We take the 13 states and give the rest back to the Indians.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:56, Reply)

they can have Delaware

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:56, Reply)

We want Delaware. No tax.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:58, Reply)

We also want Tupperware.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:02, Reply)

What do we want.......?
When do we want it....?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:04, Reply)

Whenever we like, one of the benefits of Tupperware is its food preserving abilities.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:05, Reply)

don't put it in the diswasher though as the heat can warp it leading to a less than perfect seal with the lids
/tupperware woes
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:09, Reply)

Tupperwoes

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:12, Reply)

For those without knowledge on the subject
the refusal on the British part to take any more land away from the natives was a contributing factor to the War of Independance. That little snippet doesn't really get taught in American schools.

By and large, by the standards of the time, British rule was beneficial to Imperial territories run, as it was, as a loosely Imperial trading network, rather than by pure military subjugation.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 9:59, Reply)

You are correct on all points.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:00, Reply)

The problem in every non-African (cepting SA) ex Brit territory was land.
The reason we were outed from US, Australia and SA was land grab. The people living in the territories wanted to fuck the locals over and take as much land as possible.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:03, Reply)

You get a bunch of white people either emigrating
because the ruling Parliament isn't right-wing enough for you or because you're a filthy crim, it's hardly surprising that the local morality towards the natives wasn't as high as it could have been.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:07, Reply)

Quite so.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Jul 2013, 10:12, Reply)