For fuck's sake Placid, there are plenty of talented DJs across many genres.
It's just not a style of performing which you're familiar with. I find singer songwriter acoustic guitar stuff utterly shit but it doesn't mean that I tar all of its exponents as talentless.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:31, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

Oh I do.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:32, Reply)

Quite.
This Placid fellow really hasn't got much of a clue, has he? If there's no talent or skill to DJing, then how come some DJs are demonstrably technically better at the following things than other DJs?

Beatmixing
Scratching
Harmonic mixing
Scratching
Set building
Track selection
Controlling a dancefloor
Timing.

Eh? Eh?

Then there are people like Richie Hawtin who are approaching autistic levels of expertise.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:34, Reply)

I can understand why he thinks the way he does
but someone like Qbert is a virtuoso musician and a far more innovative composer than a great many 'proper' musicians. And speaking as someone who can play 'proper' instruments as well as DJ, it's a lot harder to do 'high end' DJing. It's like being able to play guitar left and right-handed at the same time and you have to be a great deal more light of touch. You can get away with breaking a string but not knocking your needle off eh.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:45, Reply)

Kid Koala is fantastic as well.
See, I differentiate between yer turntablists and your club DJs. You do get people like DJ Hype that do loads of scratching, but DJing in a club is very different to being a 'musical' DJ. DJing in a club is about mixing tunes, working a crowd and properly delivering your own personality/ taste at the same time. If Weatherall, Avery or Smagghe is playing, you just know it's them, nobody else sounds like them.

I've seen plenty of shit DJs who might be flawless at mixing but can't hold the attention of a dancefloor and play utterly predictable tunes. That really fucks me off, if I wanted to hear stuff that I knew played in a familiar order I'd stay at home and do it myself.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:52, Reply)

They're the equivalent of someone like Yngwie Malmsteen etc
Well done mate, technically perfect but complete shit I've no interest in hearing.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:55, Reply)

Exactly.
Or cunts like Judge Jules who waste their technical skills on mixing fucking cheesy pop records. Se'sly, that boy could mix superbly but played absolute shit.

Waste of talent, right there.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:58, Reply)

and a total fucking penis, to boot

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 23:00, Reply)

That too.
But seeing as how DJs don't actually get on the mic I don't give a shit.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 23:02, Reply)

Actually I disagree re Kid Koala, he's a waki smartarse.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:56, Reply)

I know what you mean, but Drunk Trumpet and Moon River are fucking ace.
Especially that needle drops solo in Moon River.

HE'S A MUSICAL THIEF!!!!!!!!!!
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:59, Reply)

Some of the early jungle djs could barely mix.
Randall used to clang all the time but his selection was great so it was allowed. Well that and everyone had taken too many chinswingers to notice.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 23:17, Reply)

Some can count to 4 better than others.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:47, Reply)

'fancy going to the cinema?'

'I don't know, who's the projectionist?'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:48, Reply)

Wanna buy a lorry?
It fell off the back of a ferry.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:49, Reply)

This is where trying to mix DnB drives me mental. It's not got a 4/4 beat and it's amateurish as hell to just drop mix it.
*****IN BEFORE THE MUSIC BORES*****

Yes, I know what 4/4 usually means, and that a lot of DnB is in 4/4/ time, but in electronic/ club music, it means a constant kick drum. You know, the BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM of house or techno. The BUM TITS BUM BUM TITS of a breakbeat isn't 4/4.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:56, Reply)

well yes it is, it's still four beats to the bar, it's not a fucking 3/4 waltz is it

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:58, Reply)

Yeah, four beats in the bar but not 'four on the floor'.
That was my point.

4/4 in club stuff specifically refers to the kick drum pattern in house & techno rather than beats in the bar.

I don't make the rules, eh?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 23:00, Reply)

4/4 is a musical time signature, in club music, bongo yurtprick noseflute music and sadcore.
You don't make the rules and nor do housebag techbreak DJs. Not having this.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 23:05, Reply)

David 'Diddy' Hamilton was mint.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:33, Reply)

as was Richard Anthony Crispian Francis Prew Hope-Weston

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:34, Reply)

That cunt can't mix for toffee.
Great taste though and he's a lovely bloke.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:37, Reply)

yeah Tommy Vance wasn't exactly 'nice on the cut', PD.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:53, Reply)

The voice of the Top 40 in the early 80s.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:54, Reply)

THE FRIDAY ROCK SHOW

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:55, Reply)

That show was no 'Steve Wright in the Afternoon'

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:56, Reply)

or Simon 'Master' Bates

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:57, Reply)

He ruined every film every video I every rented.
The cunt.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 9 Jul 2013, 22:58, Reply)