If the tube drivers are that crucial, surely they should be paid more.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:04, 2 replies, latest was 11 years ago)

The average tube driver salary is over £50k.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:05, Reply)

And this is only cos the cunts hold the capital to ransom.
Utter robbing cunts.
( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:08, Reply)

I think the lesson here is that more people should join a union.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:10, Reply)

Nothing wrong with being in a union or having your rights protected. There is something wrong with demanding more just because you know you can blackmail your employer in to it.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:11, Reply)

It's usually considered acceptable when top earners do the same, why should blue collar workers be any different?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:14, Reply)

I don't know anyone who finds blackmailing your employer with strikes acceptable.

( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:15, Reply)

If I were to resign I am sure they would offer me more to stay
which I am sure they wouldn't with Tube drivers. They get what they want by bringing London to a standstill.
( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:17, Reply)

Give me examples of when 'top earners' do the same.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:16, Reply)

When footballers refuse to score goals until they get more money
No wait that wouldn't work. Most top earners who refused to do their job would be told to fuck off, not given more.
( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:18, Reply)

There is currently a lot of rhetoric about how CEOs, or whoever, should be paid ludicrously high salaries, plus large bonuses and shouldn't be taxed too heavily because they will leave the country or some shit.
It's the same principle.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:19, Reply)

BOLLOCKS.
It is nothing like the same principle.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:20, Reply)

I want more and I am prepared to use whatever means of blackmail available to me in order to get it
How is it not the same?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:24, Reply)

If a CEO tried that, they'd be fired & replaced - the shareholders wouldn't stand for it.
Most boards have a sub-board committee to address the pay of their senior management. Pay recommendations wouldn't get through the board if the shareholders weren't happy.

Quite frankly, if you're the CEO of a major business that employs thousands & delivers millions in shareholder value you deserve a high salary for having the responsibility.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:27, Reply)

So they never negotiate for increased pay or benefits?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:34, Reply)

Of course they do, but shareholder approval has to be given.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:36, Reply)

So what is your point?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:38, Reply)

That you are a prick, at a guess.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:39, Reply)

That is not in question here.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:48, Reply)

My point is that it is not 'the same principle' as you put it.
CEOs don't hold their customers to ransom to get a pay increase.

Tube drivers do.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:40, Reply)

CEOs say that unless they pay enormous salaries then the shareholders will all lose their money
and given that we're not talking about a few people on the street who own the shares, we are in fact talking about pensions compnaies who own the majority of shares so actually we're talking about a big boys club who all slap each others backs and give each other pay rises.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:42, Reply)

His point is that he doesn't have a fucking clue how this is different

(Bazongaloid, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:41, Reply)

That has absolutely nothing to do with cunts who say "give us more money or London doesn't move"

( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:21, Reply)

I thought this strike wasn't about pay?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:22, Reply)

Yeah, that worked out really fucking well the last time we tried that, didn't it?

( Kroney, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:13, Reply)

Yes.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:14, Reply)

You must have missed the strikes bringing the country to a standstill
and being a sizeable contributing factor to the depression that was the cause for the four day week.
( Kroney, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:40, Reply)

You must have missed increased worker safety and benefits
and other factors possibly being at play when there are problems with the economy.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:48, Reply)

Bin men are crucial.

( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:07, Reply)

Then they should be paid more.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:09, Reply)

They're not striking to ask for more though, so they can't be too unhappy with what they earn.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:10, Reply)

They aren't skilled workers, Most able bodied people could do it, just because its crucial doesn't mean they deserve to be paid more

( Peej, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:20, Reply)