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There's another tube strike this week. Cunts.
When were you last inconvienced by selfish wankers?
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:02, 195 replies, latest was 11 years ago)
There was something in the papers the other how Bob Crow is currently on his jollys at some £10kpw resort in Rio.
It naturally mentioned that he's on £150kpa and lives in a council house.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:03, Reply)
Bob Crow must be one of the most despised people in Britain.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:04, Reply)
He should rename himself Bob Cow
Then people would like him
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:17, Reply)
It's alright for you, you don't have to rely on the tube, what with your £300 a month car allowance.
Oh, hang on...
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:19, Reply)
I like cows.
Dead,on a plate.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:20, Reply)
Never heard of him

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:35, Reply)
The sooner they replace this dicks with robots, the better.
I, for one, welcome our robotic tube driving overlords.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:03, Reply)
The DLR works fine with driverless trains.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:04, Reply)
If they want to safeguard their jobs, they ought to try actually doing them for more than a week at a time.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:13, Reply)
If the tube drivers are that crucial, surely they should be paid more.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:04, Reply)
The average tube driver salary is over £50k.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:05, Reply)
And this is only cos the cunts hold the capital to ransom.
Utter robbing cunts.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:08, Reply)
I think the lesson here is that more people should join a union.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:10, Reply)
Nothing wrong with being in a union or having your rights protected. There is something wrong with demanding more just because you know you can blackmail your employer in to it.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:11, Reply)
It's usually considered acceptable when top earners do the same, why should blue collar workers be any different?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:14, Reply)
I don't know anyone who finds blackmailing your employer with strikes acceptable.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:15, Reply)
If I were to resign I am sure they would offer me more to stay
which I am sure they wouldn't with Tube drivers. They get what they want by bringing London to a standstill.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:17, Reply)
Give me examples of when 'top earners' do the same.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:16, Reply)
When footballers refuse to score goals until they get more money
No wait that wouldn't work. Most top earners who refused to do their job would be told to fuck off, not given more.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:18, Reply)
There is currently a lot of rhetoric about how CEOs, or whoever, should be paid ludicrously high salaries, plus large bonuses and shouldn't be taxed too heavily because they will leave the country or some shit.
It's the same principle.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:19, Reply)
BOLLOCKS.
It is nothing like the same principle.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:20, Reply)
I want more and I am prepared to use whatever means of blackmail available to me in order to get it
How is it not the same?
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:24, Reply)
If a CEO tried that, they'd be fired & replaced - the shareholders wouldn't stand for it.
Most boards have a sub-board committee to address the pay of their senior management. Pay recommendations wouldn't get through the board if the shareholders weren't happy.

Quite frankly, if you're the CEO of a major business that employs thousands & delivers millions in shareholder value you deserve a high salary for having the responsibility.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:27, Reply)
So they never negotiate for increased pay or benefits?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:34, Reply)
Of course they do, but shareholder approval has to be given.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:36, Reply)
So what is your point?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:38, Reply)
That you are a prick, at a guess.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:39, Reply)
That is not in question here.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:48, Reply)
My point is that it is not 'the same principle' as you put it.
CEOs don't hold their customers to ransom to get a pay increase.

Tube drivers do.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:40, Reply)
CEOs say that unless they pay enormous salaries then the shareholders will all lose their money
and given that we're not talking about a few people on the street who own the shares, we are in fact talking about pensions compnaies who own the majority of shares so actually we're talking about a big boys club who all slap each others backs and give each other pay rises.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:42, Reply)
His point is that he doesn't have a fucking clue how this is different

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:41, Reply)
That has absolutely nothing to do with cunts who say "give us more money or London doesn't move"

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:21, Reply)
I thought this strike wasn't about pay?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:22, Reply)
Yeah, that worked out really fucking well the last time we tried that, didn't it?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:13, Reply)
Yes.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:14, Reply)
You must have missed the strikes bringing the country to a standstill
and being a sizeable contributing factor to the depression that was the cause for the four day week.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:40, Reply)
You must have missed increased worker safety and benefits
and other factors possibly being at play when there are problems with the economy.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:48, Reply)
Bin men are crucial.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:07, Reply)
Then they should be paid more.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:09, Reply)
They're not striking to ask for more though, so they can't be too unhappy with what they earn.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:10, Reply)
They aren't skilled workers, Most able bodied people could do it, just because its crucial doesn't mean they deserve to be paid more

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:20, Reply)
I'm quite looking forward to not getting to work.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:04, Reply)
My kids keep asking for food.
At least three times EVERY DAY!
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:06, Reply)
Disgraceful. You're obviously not hitting them enough.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:08, Reply)
My arms get tired eventually.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:08, Reply)
Kick them.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:11, Reply)
Oh what a fool I have been!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:15, Reply)
Constantly
There seems to have been some kind of memo round our way to drive at 15mph in a 30 zone and 25mph in a 40 zone

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNTS
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:18, Reply)
On the plus side
the slower travel will mean that you use less petrol. Hereby gaining back some of your travel allowance, its all for your own good sporters
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:58, Reply)
What are they striking about?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:19, Reply)
Just to inconvenience Londoners.
They're all extremely well paid and have an easy job that could done by a machine and as a consequence have completely worry-free lives.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:21, Reply)
Pretty much.
During the Olympics they threatened to strike unless they got triple pay.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:29, Reply)
They wanted to be paid more for an increased workload?
Disgraceful.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:37, Reply)
Wasn't three times the workload though, was it?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:43, Reply)
I don't think you understand the principle of negotiation.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:47, Reply)
Sure I do.
I don't think you should request triple pay if you're not doing triple the work.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:50, Reply)
No, that privilege should be reserved for those in the top 1%

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:52, Reply)
Why?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:53, Reply)
Apparently they have considerably more than 3 times the responsibility than the rest of the workplace.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:56, Reply)
If they do, then they should get triple pay, then.
Duh.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:01, Reply)
Who have considerably more than 3 times the responsibility than the rest of the workplace.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:54, Reply)
No, they don't. They just tell people that.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:55, Reply)
I dunno.
A company owner is responsible for the livelihood of the workforce.

If their company folds, that's all the workers out of a job, and potentially their families at risk.

That's quite a lot of responsibility.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:59, Reply)
They want to drive faster and all passengers to have to raise their arms in the air as if on a rollercoaster for the duration of the journey

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:21, Reply)
Hahaha

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:22, Reply)
I vote 100% for this

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:27, Reply)
It would be excellent. Make the commute much more enjoyable.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:28, Reply)
I'd consider working in London

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:30, Reply)
they should put me in charge, im full of ace ideas such as this

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:31, Reply)
Frog for Mayor!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:31, Reply)
its a thought, im thinking about a change of career anyway

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:32, Reply)
I'd vote for him.
With a ginger first lady
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:35, Reply)
All of a sudden there would be bigger seats on the tube for fat women & free hair dye for all.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:37, Reply)

*snigger*
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:38, Reply)
I knew i could count on your support

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:37, Reply)
Well not really, seeing as he doesn't live in London and doesn't qualify for a vote in the mayoral elections

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:39, Reply)
^pedant^

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:41, Reply)
yeah, we are fucking about down here, if you could fuck off back to your half baked serious chat up there that'd be great thx

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:41, Reply)
You're not as horrible as Boris, nor slimier than (Ken...

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:40, Reply)
Proposed ticket office closures.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:22, Reply)
I for one will thoroughly miss the sight an uninterested tfl employee sitting in a perspex cubicle playing with a phone once automatons take over

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:24, Reply)
As I become increasingly misanthropic, I'm starting to seriously consider a career with TfL.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:22, Reply)
They're bastards about the way they structure the 48 hours too.
Starts Tuesday night - so they have to start winding the service down before 8pm, when it starts. Then it takes ages to get the service back up to speed on Thursday night and isn't right again until Friday morning.

Still, If I had to be in a union it'd be the RMT. Have you seen the holiday they get?
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:39, Reply)
Devious shits.
They get their employer contributing more than 25% of their salary in to their pension each year as well. I can't think of many jobs that put that much in.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:42, Reply)
isn't it awful when workers at a successful company want to see the rewards paid out to them rather than shareholders.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:44, Reply)
The best way is to have employees owning shares, per the John Lewis model.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:45, Reply)
I agree with Battered here.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:46, Reply)
When they use the customer as a bargaining chip it is, yes.
A bit like parents who use their kids when negotiating divorce settlements. It's nothing to do with them.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:45, Reply)
What do you suggest they use instead?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:46, Reply)
dog shit

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:48, Reply)
MORE PAY FOR WORKERS - OR WE'LL SMEAR DOG SHIT UNDER THE DOORHANDLES OF YOUR CAR!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:49, Reply)
Ha!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:50, Reply)
Negotiation skill.
Strong-arming is the worst of all the conservative traits.

"I probably won't hurt this puppy" says Chancellor George Osbourne.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:52, Reply)
Poor Battered never receives decent remuneration for whatever it is he does drunk on the sofa all day.
He's practically on the poverty line.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:46, Reply)
I think the point is that they are considerably better off
than most of the punters who get the train thus not engendering much sympathy.

Not me obv.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:47, Reply)
Ah yes, race to the bottom politics.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:50, Reply)
Sort of.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:53, Reply)
The day tube drivers join us in the 1% club will be a bad day.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:51, Reply)
the sooner they die out like the other dinosaurs, the better
I have no idea how to get to my fucking speed awareness course by 7.45am on thu - cannot find a single cab, nowhere to park and buses on tube day are a nightmare. and then i have to get to a really important client thing that has been months in the planning and will be ruined if people can't get there. fuck I hate the RMT.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:48, Reply)
I hope you lose your licence as a result of this.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:51, Reply)
no London address, no opinion

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:53, Reply)
union:
[mass noun] the action of joining together or the fact of being joined together, especially in a political context
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:55, Reply)
if they only inconvenienced their employer, that would be different
but the people who depend on them are the ones getting messed around. shameful. bring on the robot drivers with lasers for eyes
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:00, Reply)

5.9.83.79/questions/offtopic/post2203788
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:03, Reply)
they are miles better off than most people
these are not vulnerable people who need protecting.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:04, Reply)

5.9.83.79/questions/offtopic/post2203801
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:06, Reply)
they are cunts. end of debate!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:07, Reply)
I hope that your wish for an automated system comes true
And that it costs considerably more than expected to install, resulting in increased fares.
And then, once it is in place, it turns out to be even shitter and more unreliable than employing people to do it.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:10, Reply)
Except it won't, because, in case you hadn't noticed, most of the ticketing system is already completely automated.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:15, Reply)
I hadn't noticed.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:26, Reply)
Next time you get on a train, have a look at the magical boxes that let you buy a ticket to anywhere
and the fancy barriers that scan the tickets and let you on the train.

The only thing they're changing is getting rid of the bored, fat cunts that occasionally open a barrier for a pushchair.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:27, Reply)
and then we'll have less money to support shit rundown places, you know, like Coventry

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:15, Reply)
Thanks for your kind subsidies, ma'am
*doffs cloth cap*
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:35, Reply)

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(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:46, Reply)
^

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:47, Reply)
HAHAHA!
I think that being unable to attend a speed awareness course because of public transport problems might qualify as irony. But I'll need a second opinion.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:51, Reply)
Have you seen the stupid private number plate on her car?
She should lose her license just for that.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:53, Reply)
you should lose your cock for being too ugly ever to use it

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:54, Reply)
I use it a lot. Just need to find someone else to use it.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:55, Reply)
no grooming micro's mates

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:58, Reply)
G1 NGE

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:51, Reply)
I'm aware of both, but could do without the shit one on the boat

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:54, Reply)
The problem with giving workers any say
is that the whole reason for them being manual, blue collar workers in the first place is them being ill-educated, beetle-browed fuckwits.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:54, Reply)
Well, I think if this thread has taught me anything, it's that most people hate Tuib

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:57, Reply)
well duh

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 10:58, Reply)
That's it - I'm going on strike

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:03, Reply)
me too, but only because im bored now

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:04, Reply)

well this is a Brucey bonus
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:05, Reply)
Lincoln and the surrounding areas are likely to be brought to a standstill as a result of my striking.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:06, Reply)
I wish I could get paid 40 grand to push on a couple of levers.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:08, Reply)
You could apply for a job doing this?

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:10, Reply)
I could, but i have an education. I'd be wasting that.
Plus I'd have to regularly rub shoulders with the sort of people that don't even have the necessary drive to learn a proper trade. They're really only one step up from dole-scum and get given a similarly ridiculous sum of money to continue their meaningless, empty lives.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:14, Reply)
Don't forget 46 days holiday.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:16, Reply)
Fucking Morlock cunts have it made, mate.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:16, Reply)
46 days holiday?
Bloody hell - no wonder so many times we have delays due to staff shortages - they've probably completely forgotten they've actually got a job.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:18, Reply)
There is literally no downside to driverless tube trains.
The reason the drivers are scared is because they'll have to get real jobs where they'll actually have to work for a living and get paid what their skills are worth.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:19, Reply)
And if they're lucky enough to have someone jump in front of them they get a year off on full pay!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:20, Reply)
As I become increasingly misanthropic, I'm starting to seriously consider a career with TfL.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:21, Reply)
2 jumpers and it's automatic retirement on full pay.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:24, Reply)
Sign me up for Cashmere!

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:27, Reply)
I do love cashmere. Can't wear lambswool or anything like that, has to be cashmere.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:27, Reply)
I prefer big, thick lambswool jumpers.
Cashmere just doesn't seem to keep me as warm.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:32, Reply)
* something about your dodgy cardigan *

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:33, Reply)
Warmest item of clothing I have ever owned.
Even if it is, perhaps, not an especially socially acceptable one. I fucking love it, anyway.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:34, Reply)
I prefer using the tanned hides of working class children.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:36, Reply)
no no no
poor preciouses need mollycoddling and MOAR job security than anyone else gets
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:23, Reply)
Christ - apparently only 30% voted in favour but they are going ahead anyway
not even you can defend a strike where 70% of members voted no or didn't vote
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:25, Reply)
Your statistics don't tell a complete story, so can't really be used to argue for either side.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:28, Reply)
bollocks
how is 30% a sufficient majority of anything?
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:28, Reply)
I don't think I said that it is.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:31, Reply)
It would be interesting to hear how they came to the conclusion that they should go on strike, despite only 30% of their members voting for it.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:37, Reply)
Probably a quorum of members required innit

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:39, Reply)
Yer.
Nice.
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:41, Reply)
To be fair I gave YM 30% of my length last night
and it fill her to the quorum...


*or something
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:42, Reply)
In IT Terms a quorum is normally tiny
HTH
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:45, Reply)
Dont speak geek soz
(but yes it is very tiny :-( )
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:46, Reply)
It would also be interesting to hear why people didn't vote.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:43, Reply)
No one asked me

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:45, Reply)
It's because no one cares about your opinion.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:48, Reply)
yeah, that and also im not a tfl employee

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:49, Reply)
Just shut up and drive the train.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:50, Reply)
the robot does it, im just there to fix the robot if that breaks

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:50, Reply)
Ent that about what CameWRONG got to get into No10?
and that werent full turnout either
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:48, Reply)
36% of a 65% turnout, according to Wikipedia

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:50, Reply)
look a map of what lines will be running a service albeit a reduced one cor! fascinating!
www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/12285044544/sizes/k/in/photostream/
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:50, Reply)
Look - a picture of an old man wearing a cap!
www.flickr.com/photos/euskc/2123913087/
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:52, Reply)
Look, a picture of YM with no strides on.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:53, Reply)
She is a keen and committed naturist.

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:55, Reply)
I like that she wears a sporran

(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 12:00, Reply)
look a man with a balloon cock! megalolz
farm4.staticflickr.com/3002/3003420869_51a730583b_z.jpg
(, Mon 3 Feb 2014, 11:54, Reply)

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