no it's a bleeding heartist view

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:50, 1 reply, 11 years ago)

neither battered nor al will be leaving anything to their kids
they'll be leaving the whole lot to help the masses, because that's fair
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:58, Reply)

i hope i get something nice

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:02, Reply)

I'm really going to have to get you a book that explains the difference beween communism and everything else.

(Bazongaloid, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:02, Reply)

socialism is watered down communism innit

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:04, Reply)

^ trolling

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:06, Reply)

in what way
it's all about taking from the rich to give to the poor/feckless
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:07, Reply)

There is a basic philosophical difference:
Communism = every individual gets according to their needs.
Socialism = every individual gets according to their contribution.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

but who pays for it?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:12, Reply)

Socialism = every individual gets according to their contribution.
this doesn't make sense cos those that contribute the least get the most...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:12, Reply)

Bollocks. Need versus deed.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:14, Reply)

and who pays for it?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:14, Reply)

All pay under every political system.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:17, Reply)

so, higher rate tax payers, then

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:18, Reply)

All tax payers.
Christ you really are stupid.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:19, Reply)

yeah but those that pay the least tax, take the most out of the system
hardly seems fair
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:21, Reply)

and what about those who don't pay tax?
are you going to let them starve?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:21, Reply)

he really is a cold hearted bastard

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:22, Reply)

well, according to him, they only get back what they put in
meanwhile, what's he going to give the 1% of tax payers who are paying 33% of the income tax paid in this country? a tax increase?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:23, Reply)

FFS. Pretty much every political system recognises the need to support the most vulnerable.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:23, Reply)

They're pushing your buttons, mate.

( Kroney, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:24, Reply)

I know Nakers is. Swipe is just a fucking idiot.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:26, Reply)

Diplomacy forbids me from commenting.

( Kroney, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:26, Reply)

don't get that froth on your keyboard
the insurer won't cough up for another new laptop
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:28, Reply)

exactly vulnerable, the old, sick or retarded
not the lazy, thick and useless
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:24, Reply)

steady on
no need to make it personal to dozer
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:25, Reply)

Socialism = every individual gets according to their contribution.
but what if you've been unable to work and therefore to contribute? shame on you.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:25, Reply)

meaningless soundbite^

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:16, Reply)

The main difference between the ideologies is that Socialism allows for some free market economy and that each person is allotted resources according to how hard they work, and Communism seeks communal ownership of everything and that each person is allotted resources according to their need.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:17, Reply)

the clue is in the word "ideologies"

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:18, Reply)

Capitalism is also an ideology.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:20, Reply)

who's a capitalist?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:26, Reply)

the labour government would LOVE to stop people inheriting stuff
more tax! more spending! more benefits! hoorah!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:04, Reply)

the worst taxes are
Inheritance tax
Stamp Duty
VAT
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:06, Reply)

CGT
can also be a kick in the cunt. well done, you were clever enough to invest in something. so we'll have a chunk of it to give to those who weren't, ta.

although non-stirring of the handwringers aside, i don't mind paying taxes, i just mind when it gets wasted on shite.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:09, Reply)

bollocks

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:10, Reply)

^ poor/feckless ^

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

lol

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

you thoughts apart from "bollocks"?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)