i used simple terms as i deemed them appropriate.
there is no right and wrong, merely things you get and things you don't.
peer based psychotherapy is widely recognised as highly effective.
or perhaps you don't get that?
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:34, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

*cough*
SUPERVISED peer-based psychotherapy. Or do you advocate packing a room full of lunatics and letting them get on with it?
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:37, Reply)

But isn't that what b3ta bashes are all about?
NOW I remember the reason why I cancelled my birthday bash!
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:38, Reply)

Hey!
Bashes are supervised. I won't go unless I'm accompanied by someone with a fucking certificate.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:42, Reply)

I've got a certificate in Archery if that helps?

( fuck shit up the best you never had, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:48, Reply)

No, it doesn't.
Unless you're now qualified to shoot people right in the emo.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:50, Reply)

Hmm...let me check it first and I'll let you know
I was asked today however, if I was 'one of those self harmers'. Apparently the fact that the person's cat was mauling my arm at the time escaped their notice.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:52, Reply)

Hahah!
Try looking a little less surly.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:54, Reply)

The little sod was going for my jugular
having said that, I take it you've seen me on the journey to work. It aint pretty.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:00, Reply)

Best b3ta post today right here.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:42, Reply)

Really? Because I think that's fucking cool.
I'ld love to do some sort of shooting.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:04, Reply)

Listen, Becks, I'm really happy for you, and Imma gonna let you finish, but Beyonce had the greatest video fo all time.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:52, Reply)

O no u didn't
O fucksocks he did. Sadfaces
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:54, Reply)

KEEP THE MEME ALIVE !

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:04, Reply)

of course it needs to be supervised.
and "lunatics" is a bit 19th century for me.
if you have ever observed or participated any peer based psychotherapy then you will be aware of how little input is required from the "supervisor". the vast majority of the "words of wisdom" come from the mouths of the "lunatics".
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:43, Reply)

I think you're starting to believe your sig, sir.

( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:47, Reply)

the sig comes from an incident in pizza express on the occasion of my 40th birthday.
i was actually asked if i were a human-rights lawyer by a woman who mistook the political statement of my guantanamo bay t-shirt for reality. that is what the sig is about, nothing more or less.
and i don't think for one minute that you were being serious there. unless...
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:53, Reply)

I'm terribly sorry, in future would you prefer me to use the term mentals? I wouldn't want to sound old-fashioned.
I have thankfully managed to avoid any kind of psychotherapy thus far, but regardless of their "input" one would assume that a qualified supervisor provides a certain amount of "teacher in the room" constraints on behaviour. And, certainly if you're feeling fragile, threads here largely lack that - I take it you didn't see the famous suicide thread? Becuase I guarantee you, the same sort of behaviour would have gone on were it the person in question who'd started the thread rather than a concerned friend. And that wouldn't have ended well.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:50, Reply)

Group Theorpy works, it helps you bounce off ideas, and on an anominus forum it works even better.
But this place, esspeicalay most of hte people here, arn't anominius.

And there is a great danger of replacing real life friends with online ones, and that leads to a self distrcutive path.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:08, Reply)

I don't think anyone would give up real friends for the nutters on here.
Well maybe a couple.
( girlinthehole, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:11, Reply)

It's an easy mistake to make.
In a world where you want to shut everything out, all the emotions and reactions, you'll become more absorbed in it, and the more you are, the less your offline mates see if you.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:15, Reply)

Group therapy works.
Expecting to be able to unburden yourself online, especially somewhere like b3ta, without getting horrifically negative reactions (from trolls, people that just don't like you or indeed folks who're just in bad mood) that can be really quite damaging - that strikes me as an error.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:12, Reply)

Depends on how attached you are.
A negative comment from a stranger would mean nothing to me, one from someone form here would mean something, and from real life mates it'll be really negative.

This place removes a lot of the whole human contact experiance (facial expresions, moods, phsyical..etc), so it's too easy.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:19, Reply)

yeah, naivety is a dangerous thing.
there is no perfect system to deal with the multi-faceted thing that is flawed human psychology.
and flawed is what we all are.
every single one of us.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:19, Reply)

it certainly can be unhealthy to replace reality with virtual.
i wonder just how many of the tens of thousands of b3tans actually know each other?
i'm not sure that an anonymous forum is any more or less effective. the trust that grows in a psych group is a different kind of trust than that which can develope online, surely?
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:16, Reply)

the "teacher in the room" assumption is simply that. an assumption and an erroneous one to boot.
in participating in group psychotherapy the individuals involved need to open up fully to reap the full benefit. some can do this, some cannot. for some people other forms of therapy are more appropriate. those who engage fully very quickly cease to perceive the supervisor as the "teacher in the room", i have observed. the group becomes a place where the troubles can be taken, where the deepest aspects can be discussed and wisdom shared.
this is not cod psychology. this is knowledge, experience and understanding.
i did see the thread in question.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:11, Reply)

But surely if you've been through it....
... you'll know it's not just sharing, it's sharing AND human contact at the same time, and this place doesn't provide full human contact.

It's easy to say everything on here, it's a lot harder to do it in a room full of people. Eventually, you'll become a social recluse if you do that sort of thing here.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 9 Oct 2009, 0:13, Reply)

Oh my lord, you're *so* intellectual, your comments are so above me.
I mean, I like the way you have used references and provided evidence from your years of experience in the field.

Also, what Wookie said.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Thu 8 Oct 2009, 23:39, Reply)