No
you're wrong.

I just said, the ban has nothing to do with womens rights and oppression and will only have a negative effect in this regard. The right to wear a full burkha, or whatever the fuck you want to wear is essential to any society that calls itself free.

The fact that the burkha is usually a symbol of what I would consider stupid misguided individuals makes no difference what so ever. This ban is not a good idea.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 20:51, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

I never said the ban WAS a good idea.
Please pay attention.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 20:52, Reply)

"Any act that represses women should be banned.
I have never read the Koran but I'm pretty sure it doesn't tell women to cover up so radically."

So to follow your logic, you think that because they cover up it's oppression of women and therefore should be banned.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 20:54, Reply)

Yes but I'm drunk and I'm posting things in the heat of the moment.
I stand by my first statement but I also realise that you can't change things overnight by a blanket ban on everyone's religious indoctrination.

Just agreeing that things are wrong but you accept their right to be indoctrinated is a cop out.

Edit - You can never have the same feeling of anger to this as you will never have to worry about this being an issue for you.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 21:00, Reply)

Pip pip

(Fancy a weekend on my Raymondo Luxury Yacht?, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 21:06, Reply)

the way I look at
is that most of those women will need to leave the house anyway (since their husbands sure as fuck aren't going to be doing the shopping, picking up the kids and tidying the garden) so in fact they will still get out and about. And maybe now they'll have the option of face-to-face contact, and possibly the glimmering of a realisation that heaven hasn't struck them dead, and that maybe, just maybe all those pretty French woman with their uncovered hair and faces and lives and jobs and careers might have something right
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 21:08, Reply)

Yes
yes this is exactly what will happen. Absolutely. The fact that they've been walking around up until now seeing exactly the same things and yet they still choose to follow their religion in the way they do will magically change just because of the ban.

I really am trying to make this point as clearly as I can, this ban is not going to have any effect on women who choose or are coerced into wearing a burkha, they will still be in that situation. If you strongly believe this is wrong then you should look into how you can prevent this form happening, but I strongly believe that anyone should have the right to wear whatever they want to wear out in public if they so choose.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 21:40, Reply)

I'm not saying they will magically change
I'm saying that when they realised they're not being smited by God, sexually assaulted by men for showing a face or anything of the sort, that it might have some positive impact.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 26 Jan 2010, 22:06, Reply)