I hear you
But there are bars in New York where the staff aren't paid a wage and exist solely on tips. To not tip there would make you an epic cunt.

Also it can work in your favour in a 'free pour' environment. I also had the fact that I'd accidentally tipped $100 for two drinks pointed out once.

Identically-sized-and-coloured money for all denominations + shitloads of drink and drugs = near disaster for Monty.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:06, 3 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

that would make you an epic cunt
I have a problem with the existence of such a place.

a tip should be a reward for good service, not an expectation for carrying out their job.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:08, Reply)

The true cunt is the bar owner, I suppose.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:10, Reply)

the whole god-damn system's out of order

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:11, Reply)

I just said this below actually

(Bazongaloid, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:12, Reply)

and you are right
the fact that places like that can be run, and that people will actually work there is absurd.

I recall my bro telling me about being in a bar in NY, and their waiter got the hump because he wasn't fast enough about bringing them booze so they had to keep going to the bar to get it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:14, Reply)

Not if you can take home fuck-loads of money each night.
Bar staff in downtown Manhattan take home a great deal more than Aussies in the West End, I'll be bound.

AND RIGHTLY SO.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:15, Reply)

let's face it
no one is going to tip an Aussie bar man
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:16, Reply)

Apart from with
'have a fucking bath, then get out of my country before I slay you'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:17, Reply)

nice use of slay there

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:18, Reply)

This is true
Not tipping in that situation doesn't make the customer a cunt it makes the person running that establishment exploitative scum of the highest order. If you can't pay your staff a decent wage, then your business has failed, it's that simple.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:11, Reply)

Actually I'm going to u-turn here.
If the staff can get $200 a night from tips why the fuck would you need to pay them a wage as well?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:14, Reply)

Becuause I would like to think
that your customers aren't massive retards and would notice that your drinks aren't any cheaper but they have to pay extra to get them, so they'll go to the other bar where the drinks are the same but they don't expect tips and your business just failed.

Sadly it seems that everyone in the US is a retard as this doesn't happen.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:17, Reply)

^very much this

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:18, Reply)

so the tipping culture is absurd,
but bar owners making the most of it are just sensible - the only exploiting they're doing is of the system, not the staff.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:21, Reply)

Just another another exciting tale in the life and times of Monty and his crime solving Jack Russel cunt eyes

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:10, Reply)

That's actually illegal to not pay the staff anything.

( Batshitmentalist is sane for once, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:15, Reply)

What if you give each and every one a damn good rogering at the end of the night?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:16, Reply)

....but if they're taking home shitloads of cash each night
who's going to complain?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:16, Reply)