Government borrowing to combat the effects of the worldwide recession
is the only thing that has stopped our economy totally collapsing. THere are many reasons not to support Labour, such as the Iraq war, but their handling of the economy has actually been quite good. They have ploughed a lot of money into health and education and improved them a lot.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:19, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Pre-recession

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:22, Reply)

It's interesting to note that the tax payer will make many billions of pounds out of propping up the banks
I'm surprised Labour aren't crowing to the rooftops about this, since they got so much shit saying it was terrible when they did it, but it's ended up being a very good investment.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:24, Reply)

It is, however it is fundamentally against the rules of capitalism, which is driven by success
with the weak being left behind. This leaves a healthy selection of businessess who can prosper. It's economic Darwanism.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:31, Reply)

I agree
but there wasn't actually a choice, the banks simply could not fail. However, the thing to do now would be to break them up into smaller companies to prevent it happening again. But that's just not going to happen, and capitalism runs on to it's inevitable conclusion of one massive business controlling everything. Welcome to Tesco, have a nice day.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:32, Reply)

I think we may agree on something

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:34, Reply)

they haven't improved health or education
especially not relative to the sheer amount spent. Financial prolifigacy is not an indication of quality
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:23, Reply)

They have improved health
How can you see the length of waiting lists back in the mid 90s and say that at most you having to wait a month or two for operations is not an improvement. To say the opposite is naive at best and utter stupidity at worst.

As for education, yes your parents are teachers, so you base your argument on their anecdotal evidence without presenting a single piece of evidence as to why teaching is so much worse than it was in the 90s.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:26, Reply)

Most teachers I know think it is worse; no statistics to massage no spin to be spun
although this is a universe of 4...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:28, Reply)