My ideal climate would probably be Mediteranean or mainland Greece
I would like to echo Monty's sentiments about the football, I'm actively hoping that England lose in a humiliating fashion just to see the faces of all those supporters who put their hopes and dreams in the hands of some millionaire shitehawks.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:22, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

With you and Monty on the football
If they were less arrogant, and said "Oh we're happy underdogs who haven't won anything since 1966, COME ON ENGLAND!"
I'd be right behind them.
However, they still have the audacity to say "Football's coming home. We're brilliant. We'll show 'em!"

Fuck off.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:25, Reply)

while I'd like England to win
I'd also like to see us get a massive drubbing. It wouldn't be so bad if any competition started from a far more realistic position of "We're a bit shit, but let's see how far we can go"
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:26, Reply)

We're allowed to finish early today, if we choose (flexitime)
And they're showing the match in our coffee lounge. I really hope England get reamed, so I can head down there at full time and watch people weep.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:28, Reply)

that would be quite funny

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:30, Reply)

Yup
That kind of attitude would tempt me to support them.
But then, I'm an Evertonian...
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:29, Reply)

It's a lose-lose situation either way though, as far as media coverage goes.
If England do well, the media will be in a frenzy, with 1966 getting more than its fair share of mentions.

But if they crash and burn, the media will be in a frenzy, baying for Capello's blood, analysing where it all went wrong etc.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:29, Reply)

and where it went wrong is that most of our players are a bit shit
and the ones that aren't can't play with shit players with any success.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:31, Reply)

I'm sick of people's facebook statuses detailing how they would have done everything better

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:36, Reply)

Everyone's an expert, innit

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:39, Reply)

I have no idea how it should be done
so I keep my status updates of the "oh for fucks sake" variety
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:44, Reply)

Over the years I've come to accept that England aren't really that good at football
and agree with you to some extent, but will still be screaming my lungs out this afternoon. I do really wish the media would stop making it seem like anything less than a quarter-final is a disaster. There must be eight better teams at the tournament than us. Our best centre-back and captain is crocked, our second-best centre-back is a cunt, thrid best is a walking disaster area and fourth best is Jamie fucking Carragher. You can't win a World Cup without a quality central defence and goalkeeper, and we have neither.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:30, Reply)

we have very few players who are fast too
which means we can't create any chances other than the usual scraps in the box, or belting it from way outside.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:32, Reply)

True
Only Lennon has any pace, and he has no end product. Out of his depth on this level. We're not getting any decent ball into Rooney and playing that lumbering carthorse Heskey makes it too easy for them to lump it his way and hope. Apparently Defoe might start today, which should at least give us some pace in the box
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:40, Reply)

You need Walcott to sprint down the wing
trouble is he doesn't do anything with it once he's there.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:42, Reply)

No, what you need is Dixon to thunder down the flank
And hoof it over-under to Swanson, as he's got the shine to really jimmy it to them, like back in 82.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:43, Reply)

I'm fairly ambivalent about football generally
but the insistence by a string of managers and pundits etc. that Heskey has any place in the national squad makes me furious. He is fucking dreadful.

Without wanting to turn into one of those people who think they know better than the coach. I know better than the couch. Start with Crouch or Defoe, and stick Gerrard in the middle. Get Joe Cole playing.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:43, Reply)

If almost any other manager in the world was sticking with Heskey and leaving out Cole
I'd be bemused at best and apopleptic at worst. But Fabio Capello is, well, Fabio Capello. He knows whereof he speaks. He must have some idea what he's doing as regards selection and formation
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:45, Reply)

Heskey is so shit though
and he shows it time after time. I'm more confused than anything else.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:46, Reply)

I think the logic behind playing Heskey
is that he sets it up for Rooney, who is undoubtedly our best player and most potent goal threat. The question is whether Rooney can score two strikers' goals, as Heskey clearly won't contribute
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:51, Reply)

it's rare to see Rooney doing other than setting up for other people to score though
so he needs someone who isn't dire to play with.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:53, Reply)

He could do with being more selfish in front of goal
which is the argument for playing him alone up front, he does alright for United in that position.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:58, Reply)

this is where my knowledge falls down
I never watch club football
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 10:02, Reply)

Probably because you're from Exeter

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 10:06, Reply)

originally from High Wycombe
Wanderers aren't much to write home about either.

more than that though, none of my family is or ever has been into football or rugby or anything like that really.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 10:07, Reply)

Yeah, my Dad started taking me to matches regularly when I was 8
plus Nottingham Forest were one of the best teams in the country then. So I did have several advantages over you in that respect. Never mind eh, at least you've got... your height!
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 10:10, Reply)

it's ok
I don't feel I've missed out
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 10:17, Reply)

That's the attitude, stiff upper lip
*awaits strikethrough*
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 10:19, Reply)

You'd just give them all croissants and then sit there smugly
you would make a crap coach.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:45, Reply)

pah
that wouldn't be crap. you'd want to play for me
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:49, Reply)

I'm sick and tired hearing about 1966
but I have to say the England team then was superb. Jimmy Greaves couldn't even get in to it!

Today it's full of arseholes, primadonnas, neds and combinations thereof.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:33, Reply)

I think I'd like football
If it wasn't for the primadonnas. Fucking whinging, diving wankers.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:38, Reply)

I want England to win, but I don't think I can take this all again for another 5 games as we just scrape through.
Perhaps best to get it over and done with. Then we can say we are as crap as France.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:34, Reply)

at least France had extenuating circumstances
we are just shit
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:35, Reply)

France's extenuating circumstances were entirely of their own making
Not playing to your potential is shameful, but choosing not to play to your potential because you're too busy throwing strops and acting like children is inexcusable
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:38, Reply)

But they are french
and don't have the winning mentality of the english. Even if it is misplaced.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:42, Reply)

The English clearly don't have a winning mentality
Else we would have won some games.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:45, Reply)

As I said, the mentality has been misplaced, for years.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:48, Reply)

We loaned it to Brazil in the late 50's
They keep saying they'll give it back eventually
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:52, Reply)

We'll make up some excuse though
Wayne Rooney had a broken back or something.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:38, Reply)

If we lose today
There will be no excuse, unless the referee does something atrocious. If we just get outplayed by Slovenia for fucks sakes, then the media will crucify the team and Capello will walk. However the referee for today's match is German, so a bad decision by him gives them something to blame it on
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:42, Reply)

I have a feeling you are going to be pretty fucked off by the end of the game.
Forget about England winning, shit happens.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:44, Reply)

Can't help it
Regardless of how much I try to temper my expectations I always end up in the same embarrassing drunken state
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Mornin' Dusty.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:31, Reply)

Aw man, I had a Dusty Bin
He was a nightdress case
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:34, Reply)

321
had the most complex rules of any television game show ever.

Fact.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:35, Reply)

I watched it in Spain, and it was even stranger.
Geek point: I was there to see Halley's Comet
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:36, Reply)

86?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:37, Reply)

Must have been, I wasn't about in 1910
Cheeky minx.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Even Ted was clueless. He just read it out.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:37, Reply)

And then did that
3-2-1 thing with his fingers.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:38, Reply)

Good God!

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:35, Reply)