So by starting a "War" on benefit cheats and mismanagement
while not kicking out Lord Ashcroft despite promising to do so, in fact by discussing how they will give him a new job in the government, and getting Phillip Green, another well known tax dodger, the Tories are certainly not showing that they haven't changed a bit are they.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 17:14, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

benefit cheats and mismanagement
need to be dealt with. That doesn't make Lord Ashcroft right. It just means that so far they've got less wrong than Labour, which thought both of these things were perfectly acceptable
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 17:16, Reply)

So the fact that tax avoidance means we lose something like 75 billion quid
while benefit cheats are less than a billion and mismanagement is only about 2-3 billion and you can't possibly reduce that to nothing mean they are taking the right approach?

Stop talking about Labour, I have never said that Labour were right in their attitude to closing tax loopholes etc. I'm gunning at the Tories, what Labour did or did not do is irrelevant.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 17:19, Reply)

Of course it's relevant
you can only judge something in context. Taken out of context of other parties/previous governments the Tories are a bunch of selfserving cunts. Compared to Labour and the alternatives they are the best option currently.
And we've had this discussion before. Benefit cheating is not just about the money, it's part of an entire cultural attitude that there needs to be steps to shift
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 17:26, Reply)

Less than a billion?
Oh that's alright then. Vipros can make up the shortfall from his immense wages.
( thealternativefact, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 17:26, Reply)

I fucking wish

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 17:51, Reply)