I have just lost any and all faith I ever had in you.

(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:06, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

it was at random on my ipod filled at random from a large and random collection
it has occurred to me in the past that there is no reason for Ash to have been popular.

also, on review, most of the Foo Fighters' stuff is boring as fuck.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:08, Reply)

I bought their greatest hits convinced that I loved Ash. I very quickly realised they were gash. Although 'Candy' is still brilliant.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:09, Reply)

they did a good version of the Star Wars Cantina music

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:10, Reply)

Must google this.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:11, Reply)

B side on the girl from mars single if I remember right

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:16, Reply)

'Candy'
elevated Ash from a status of "band I can't be arsed with" to "band who really get right up my fucking nose"

And sullied a perfectly good Scott Walker recording.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:12, Reply)

I've never heard of them. Should I be grateful?

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:17, Reply)

Ash?
they're mediocre. A bit like Feeder.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:18, Reply)

I know OF Feeder, but I don't know anything by them.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:22, Reply)

they started off ok and got steadily worse after they got big.
best stuff they did was instrumental tracks for one of the Gran Turismo games
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:24, Reply)

Not worth a look then?

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:24, Reply)

nope

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:27, Reply)

Cheers.

(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:29, Reply)

yeah massively average band late 90's early millenium.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:19, Reply)

"Average" really is the right word.
Also "feeble", "weak" or "wet." Like a bunch of kids desperately trying to "rock*" and just sounding a bit pathetic.

*_{Whatever the fuck that means, the way MTV go on about it you'd think there was a dictionary definition...}
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:21, Reply)

I just looked them up.
The lead singer looks like a guy I had a fling with a while ago.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:24, Reply)

the singer from my band used to know him
as my mate's cousins lived down the road from him.

exciting stuff eh?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:26, Reply)

Thrilling!
They sound utterly shit though, I only got about 30seconds into Candy before I gave up.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:27, Reply)

they're just bland
but had some wild reputation for a bit for some reason.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:29, Reply)

Their Wiki page classes them as Grunge.
That made me do an ANGRYFACE, after hearing Candy.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:30, Reply)

they are not grunge
pop-rock at most
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:31, Reply)

Bland, mediocre, radio-friendly pop with electric guitars
No edge, no real flavour to their music, and yet they seem to be hugely popular.

The Carling of popular music, if you will.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:34, Reply)

good summary

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:36, Reply)

As a general rule
I don't like stuff that is classed as popular. But not BECAUSE it's classed as popular, just because I have far better taste than the general public.
So that makes sense.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:36, Reply)

Quite
Being popular doesn't mean it's bad by default, it's just the public have a phenomenal tendency to be WRONG.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:38, Reply)

Especially when the general public my age
Made up of half chav and common and half emo/indie/look at me I'm so kooky and unique.
(Applebite Uh! A cow!, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:43, Reply)

This is precisely why they can't be trusted
Unreliable twatbags to a man.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:47, Reply)

Ash = gash.
Oops sorry Bobby.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:09, Reply)

I agree, only the one song I like.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:18, Reply)

Oh, that's okay, I thought you'd done it by choice.
There is something unrelentingly feeble about every Ash song I've ever heard.

I do own two Foo Fighters albums, but there's a good reason they've done nothing but gather dust for the last, ooh, eight or nine years now?
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:11, Reply)

Who'd have thought a popular Irish rock/pop act could be shit, eh?
Certainly had ME surprised, I can tell you.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:13, Reply)

Especially given what musical zeniths had been so fearlessly scaled by such great Irish bands as...um...
U2 and Dexy's Midnight Runners...
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:15, Reply)

Precisely.
I have to say that most of Thin Lizzy's output was terrible as well. I wish this were not so.

I am reminded of a superb bit of standup (from whom I cannot recall):

'Tonight there's going to be a jailbreak' sang Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy, 'somewhere in this town'.

Err, that'd be at the jail, Phil.'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:22, Reply)

it is a shame
but I agree.

He was good in War of the Worlds though.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:23, Reply)

Best tune by a country mile:
'Johnny The Fox meets Jimmy the Weed'

If you don't know it, you fucking should.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:26, Reply)

Haha, I do love that one. Can't remember for the life of me who it was though.
Thin Lizzy, there's another one I could never understand the appeal of. They have slighted me with Boys are Back in Town as every time I hear that riff I hope against hope it might be Sabbath's Never Say Die and am disappointed. (A bit like hearing that Queen song and hoping it will be Vanilla Ice)

That and my friend reports seeing Gary Moore and BB King playing in concert, during which the arrogant Oirish bellend had the gall to solo over the blues legend himself.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:26, Reply)

good lord
Gary Moore can play guitar for sure, but to solo over BB King?

*shakes head*
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:27, Reply)

Gay Moore is a very, very unfortunate looking man.
Rock's own Simon Weston, if you will.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:28, Reply)

he spits a lot when he sings
Nuclear Attack is a brilliant song though and much as I hate to admit it, Parisienne Walkways is a nice bit of guitar.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:31, Reply)

Don't forget
the Cranberries.

Dexy's weren't irish were they?
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:22, Reply)

I think Kevin Rowland had Irish heritage.
Their first single (Dance Stance) was aimed to counter the "Irish are thick" attitude.
(Cave Duck, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:47, Reply)

Anyone who doesn't like There, There My Dear by Dexys is quite mad.

(Cave Duck, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:23, Reply)

I only like 'Geno'.
Kevin Rowland's yelpy voice and faux-gyppo stylings make my fucking teeth itch.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:32, Reply)

Oh don't get me started on yelpy voices
They're all doing it these days. That White Stripes bloke who's clearly only let his sister play drums because he's bonking her does that and it makes my nasal hair bristle with indignation.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:42, Reply)

When the brass section got pissed off with/dumped by Kevin Rowland they formed The Bureau
who I happened to go an see, I thought that they were fantastic. THe singer who, if I remember correctly, was called Archie Brown was great singing soul in a style reminiscent of Steve Marriott. He was the man who should have had Mick Hucknall's success. The band had one single "Let Him Have It" that got some radio play but never really took off. I've no idea what happened to Archie but I'm going now into the great wide world of the internet to find out, and to lsiten to "Let Him Have It" for the first time in about 25 years. I really hope it isn't actually shit.

I may be some time.
(Cave Duck, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:43, Reply)

the first couple of Foos albums had some merit
but even the best tracks off those have been overplayed to the point of nauseation. (yeah that's a word)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:16, Reply)

You could have just said "nausea."
But yeah, there are a few tracks I'd revisit on the first album, maybe one or two off Nothing Left to Lose. I think I offended a lot of die-hard fans by not being impressed by Colour, nor hailing Monkey Wrench as "OMG bestest song evar!!1!1"
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:20, Reply)

monkey wrench isn't even the best song on that album
It's one I like, but has been over played

that wouldn't have quite done it. I wanted to get across that it made me feel nauseated
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:22, Reply)

Anyone
who releases a new album every two weeks as they do, is bound to have serious quality issues.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:25, Reply)

this is true
he's done his best work on the drums really.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:26, Reply)

Kung Fu
is the only reason for them to be popular.

Should've stopped there.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:12, Reply)

make that two songs. Good shout Zed

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 2 Sep 2010, 14:20, Reply)