Girls don't write good sci fi.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:07, 3 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Anne McCaffrey has written some decent stuff

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:08, Reply)

I was trying to be controvertial.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:10, Reply)

you are almost right
it's like stand up comedy. There aren't many women who are any good, and it's still fairly lame observational stuff
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:13, Reply)

Bloody Gina Yashere
and her nigerian mum jokes. God, I want to punch her.
(berk, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:14, Reply)

she is fucking awful

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:16, Reply)

And she looks fucking horrible these days too.
She's got The Scrawn.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:17, Reply)

I saw a female Muslim standup a year ago
She was... alright. She made a joke about her being a good Muslim girl and not having sex before marriage, but anal totally doesn't count.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:18, Reply)

Fairly bad, yeah
I'm not sure if she's worse than Shappi Khorshandi though.
(berk, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:18, Reply)

saw her live at a comedy club a few years back
before she was on tv, she was the worst of the 4 then.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:19, Reply)

the last half of this article was writen whilst stoned
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11287130
(PsychoChomp, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:18, Reply)

how on earth have they managed to write it twice?
that's just daft
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:21, Reply)

Also Ursula LeGuin.
And Elizabeth Moon.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:17, Reply)

Does Margaret Atwood count?
I thought The Handmaid's Tale was bloody good.
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:24, Reply)

I didn't get on too well with it, but I plan on giving it another try one of these days.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:26, Reply)

a bit late
but I'm compelled to reply. You are wrong. Anne McCaffrey should be shot for disservice to literature
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 13:15, Reply)

Well I disagree.
So there.
( girlinthehole, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:11, Reply)

I read The Sparrow a few months ago
on the recommendation of a girl I'd met at a wedding. She'd been rapturous in her praise so I'd made a note of it. I didn't get it, it had some nice ideas in it but overall a bit meh. Funnily enough all the good reports I have heard about it are from women.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:16, Reply)

Maybe women like their sci-fi a bit more deep than flashing lazers and robots.

( girlinthehole, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:18, Reply)

try reading Alastair Reynolds or Iain M Banks
that's what sci fi should be like.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:19, Reply)

I've read one of Ian M Banks books.
Alastair Reynolds I've not come across.
( girlinthehole, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:20, Reply)

Reynolds is like sci fi film noir in some of the books
it's good shit.

Revelation Space is a good one to start with, or Diamond Dogs and Turquoise Days (I think)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:21, Reply)

He's brilliant! Spectacular gothic space-opera.
And if you like your sci-fi political, Ken McLeod.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:24, Reply)

I really enjoyed The Sparrow and thought Consider Phlebas by Banks was a wanky mess of a book,
and I like lasers and robots in my books.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:32, Reply)

I reread Consider Phlebas the other week
and it wasn't quite as good as I thought the previous few times I read it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:34, Reply)

Excession is still utterly fantastic though.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:40, Reply)

that's my favourite
it's outrageously good
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:46, Reply)

That wasn't what I was hoping for though
the person who recommended it to me said that she fell in love with the characters and was moved to tears, that it had really blown her away. That was why I bought it, no book had really grabbed me like that in yonks. I don't think she even mentioned that it was sci fi.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 11:23, Reply)