It's a load of bollocks
I have ignored him because it was messing up my screen.
If Bobby did it he'd get fucking slaughtered but this baldmary does it and everyone's like "yeah but he's normally funny so it's ok!"
Ring-licking.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:07, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

You deal out the rough justice!
You'll put him back in his place.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:09, Reply)

His place is on 'ignore'

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:11, Reply)

Hello Miss Hair of the Year, every year.
What's new? If you're not gonna join me on the ranch what are you gonna do?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:09, Reply)

I'd be a star of Vaudeville

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:10, Reply)

googling now you intellectual butt monkey
Liking this vaudeville stuff.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:11, Reply)

This is a winner, I think
I would have loved to be around when all that was happening.
(berk, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:15, Reply)

It still is
But these days we call it "X Factor."
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:25, Reply)

Sod off
That tripe isn't as versatile as vaudeville
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:27, Reply)

Quite so.
In the wild west, they didn't vote you off. They tarred and feathered you if you were rubbish.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:28, Reply)

The principle is similar
The only reason it's not as versatile, or varied, or inspiring of true talent is that there is such a "wealth" of mass media available to the jaded masses now.

In the real days of Vaudeville (which I guess were probably 1850-1914 ish) it served roughly the same purpose and demographic as X Factor et al do now.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:32, Reply)

You disgust me
X factor is shite of the highest order.
(berk, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:33, Reply)

I'm not expecting to win this arguement
But I might score a point or two.

The greatest vaudeville acts were hand selected by the promoters because they knew that a big name on the billboards brought them revenue.

I don't suppose the likes of Marie Lloyd wrote or even selected their own material; it was a marriage of what the best promoters felt was the most lucrative stuff and acts.

So now we're getting closer to X Factor, aren't we?
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:38, Reply)

You had to be moderately talented though
and not just a fame hungry wannabe.
(berk, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:43, Reply)

As much as it pains me to say it
quite a few of the hundred or so that get through to the latter stages are talented. Unfortunately they're then bent and twisted through the Syco/ITV1 machine and moulded to a template and have all discernible natural talent squeezed out of them until they fit the desired model.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:45, Reply)

Oh, I agree that the ones that get to the final few stages
can sing. But only a certain type of person goes on that program, and it's those who have a greater desire to be famous than they do a great singer. And, like you say, any individuality they might have had is mangled out of them to become 'chart stars' who will inevitably sink without a trace after their first album has been released, cynically in time for the Christmas market.
(berk, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:51, Reply)

Again, a good point
There are so many wannabes that they are expendable and their handlers can exploit them cynically, as you put it. It's almost analogous with factory farming - milk 'em to death, wring their necks and bring on the next batch.

Whether there were queues round the block to audition for vaudeville acts is unknown to us. I suspect there were wannabes then, but not with the same assumption that they were indelibly destined for superstardom.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 23:04, Reply)

That's a valid point
And the cult of stardom has been brought to us primarily by television.

I think my overriding point is that the strata of entertainment that is most popular has always been manipulated by the promoters and producers of entertainment.

Perhaps we are starry-eyed to think that true talent has always emerged fully formed for our delight. It's always been manouvered into place. How many Norma-Jean Bakers got passed over before Marilyn Monroe got plucked from Turd City, Oklahoma (or wherever?)
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:50, Reply)

It's not an argument.
who would you rather watch, one of the bottom feeders from X fuckter, or Roota, taking off Marline Dietrich singing "See what the boys in the back room will have."

No contest.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:45, Reply)

I love you
I would also sing Final Act by Deaf School while showing my drawers
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:54, Reply)

I'll have to google that one.
;)
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 22:57, Reply)

Please download original version.
The video version is recent and Bette's all old and it's not good.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 23:00, Reply)

Just saw the top one on You tube,
I'll check the original out tomorrow.

G'night Toots.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 23:04, Reply)

Nightol

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 28 Oct 2010, 23:05, Reply)