I don't believe you can make people cleverer than they are
Although of course it is possible to stretch someone to the best of their ability, and this should be encouraged. Preferably playing on people's strengths. If someone's good with his hands, and interested in carpentry, but is not very bright, why should he go to university? Instead, why not give him vocational training to be the best carpenter around?
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Fri 12 Nov 2010, 9:56, 1 reply)

I believe that in some European countries (France? Belgium? Dunno) pretty much anyone can get in to uni, but can only stay if they pass the exams. Sounds fairer to me - the not-very-bright woodworking genius can choose to have a go if he think he's got the potential, and might surprise us all...
(bolshevette, Fri 12 Nov 2010, 14:59, closed)

The problem with that
(in France) is that you lose the sense of personal tuition, and a lot of money gets wasted on students who'll drop out after one year (and the rate is over 50% at some universities). It also reinforces the dual university-grandes écoles system, whereby the privileged get excellent education and the less well-off go to overcrowded unis.

My point wasn't that I believe everyone now should go to uni. Clearly it won't benefit some people, and it's wrong to give the impression that it's the only acceptable path. But if pre-university education gets substantially better, then I can foresee much higher rates of university attendance.

There'll always be differences in intellectual capacity, sure, but why do the majority of Oxbridge students come from private schools? Quality of education, not innate ability.
( Pretender, Fri 12 Nov 2010, 15:27, closed)