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I once had a "friend" (I hated his guts) who lost two jobs on the same day - he drunkenly crashed the taxi he was driving when he was supposed to be at his office job. How have you been sacked?
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 13:33)
I once had a "friend" (I hated his guts) who lost two jobs on the same day - he drunkenly crashed the taxi he was driving when he was supposed to be at his office job. How have you been sacked?
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 13:33)
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A place a friend worked a few years ago had an interesting one:
A new girl started, and a couple of weeks later they all ended up down the pub on a Friday evening.
Somehow a tea-towel got involved, and silliness ensued.
Someone put it on their head (not the new girl), and one of the old hands said, amused "You look like a terrorist!"
Monday morning, the old hand was hauled into HR, and fired on the spot, because the new girl had complained.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 15:23, 25 replies)
A new girl started, and a couple of weeks later they all ended up down the pub on a Friday evening.
Somehow a tea-towel got involved, and silliness ensued.
Someone put it on their head (not the new girl), and one of the old hands said, amused "You look like a terrorist!"
Monday morning, the old hand was hauled into HR, and fired on the spot, because the new girl had complained.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 15:23, 25 replies)
Not much of a stretch to class this as racist behaviour, which is gross misconduct in most workplaces
particularly if the employer was already looking to get rid.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 17:16, closed)
particularly if the employer was already looking to get rid.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 17:16, closed)
In what way could it possibly be construed as racist?
I'm confused.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:02, closed)
I'm confused.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:02, closed)
It isn't racist.
Discrimination based on someones religion isn't racist; it isn't even unfair or wrong, since religion is a learned behaviour, which people maintain by choice.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:15, closed)
Discrimination based on someones religion isn't racist; it isn't even unfair or wrong, since religion is a learned behaviour, which people maintain by choice.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:15, closed)
Religion?
I'm assuming she was catholic then, what with being in a pub and all.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:25, closed)
I'm assuming she was catholic then, what with being in a pub and all.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:25, closed)
What the fuck has wearing a keffiyeh got to do with religion?
It has everything to do with race. If you are an Arab or Kurd, you are likely to wear a keffiyeh, so by saying someone wearing one looks like a terrorist, you are saying Arabs are terrorists, which is clearly racist.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:33, closed)
It has everything to do with race. If you are an Arab or Kurd, you are likely to wear a keffiyeh, so by saying someone wearing one looks like a terrorist, you are saying Arabs are terrorists, which is clearly racist.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:33, closed)
There is nothing in your genetic makeup which codes for "wear this headgear".
Absolutely nothing racist about taking the piss out of a hat.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:43, closed)
Absolutely nothing racist about taking the piss out of a hat.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:43, closed)
But race is more than genetics; it's also culture.
Taking the piss out of a hat is fine. I, for one, think baseball caps are ridiculous. Taking the piss out of a hat, especially one worn as a symbol of cultural solidarity, in a way that seeks to reinforce detrimental and incorrect stereotypes about that culture is racist. It's like saying,'You look like a sand monkey/raghead.' It's not the same as saying hahaha, people who wear keffiyehs look like they have a tea towel on their head, which is taking the piss out of the hat.
If you intend to take the piss out of a culture at work you need to be careful. Calling the French bloke a cheese eating surrender monkey is going to get you in trouble, and saying someone who wears a keffiyeh is a terrorist falls into the same category. It's offensive, so you need to save it for when you out with mates, rather than colleagues
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 19:09, closed)
Taking the piss out of a hat is fine. I, for one, think baseball caps are ridiculous. Taking the piss out of a hat, especially one worn as a symbol of cultural solidarity, in a way that seeks to reinforce detrimental and incorrect stereotypes about that culture is racist. It's like saying,'You look like a sand monkey/raghead.' It's not the same as saying hahaha, people who wear keffiyehs look like they have a tea towel on their head, which is taking the piss out of the hat.
If you intend to take the piss out of a culture at work you need to be careful. Calling the French bloke a cheese eating surrender monkey is going to get you in trouble, and saying someone who wears a keffiyeh is a terrorist falls into the same category. It's offensive, so you need to save it for when you out with mates, rather than colleagues
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 19:09, closed)
Culture is also a learned behaviour that you can choose not to do.
So, it is perfectly acceptable to take the piss out of it.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 20:29, closed)
So, it is perfectly acceptable to take the piss out of it.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 20:29, closed)
Exactly.
If I decided tomorrow that "my culture" was to wear a strap-on dildo on my head it would be as valid as any other "cultural costume".
We ought not to live in some feudal iron-age society where a head-dress is some kind of untouchable "holy icon".
If it's OK to take the piss out of a crap dress sense (it is, I checked) then it is equally as OK to take the piss out of silly head gear.
I'm also still not sure how any of this is "racist"?
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 20:35, closed)
If I decided tomorrow that "my culture" was to wear a strap-on dildo on my head it would be as valid as any other "cultural costume".
We ought not to live in some feudal iron-age society where a head-dress is some kind of untouchable "holy icon".
If it's OK to take the piss out of a crap dress sense (it is, I checked) then it is equally as OK to take the piss out of silly head gear.
I'm also still not sure how any of this is "racist"?
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 20:35, closed)
It is ok to take the piss out of head dress.
It's not ok to take the piss out of it in a culturally sensitive way when out for a drink with colleagues. Can you not understand that? I'm definitely right on this. The evidence is the bit in the story where the person got sacked. It's basically not ok to say anything that could possibly be construed as offensive to anyone anywhere in front of your colleagues, because it's racist. Anyone who can't grasp that fact is a fucking idiot and deserves to be sacked. Racist here meaning saying anything that could possibly be construed as offensive to anyone anywhere.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 22:21, closed)
It's not ok to take the piss out of it in a culturally sensitive way when out for a drink with colleagues. Can you not understand that? I'm definitely right on this. The evidence is the bit in the story where the person got sacked. It's basically not ok to say anything that could possibly be construed as offensive to anyone anywhere in front of your colleagues, because it's racist. Anyone who can't grasp that fact is a fucking idiot and deserves to be sacked. Racist here meaning saying anything that could possibly be construed as offensive to anyone anywhere.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 22:21, closed)
Not really.
Racism is about race - which is something you can't choose.
Culture and religion you can choose.
I don't see the problem with taking the piss out of people's culture. Crusties having dogs on string, for example, or chavs being chavvish.
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 9:37, closed)
Racism is about race - which is something you can't choose.
Culture and religion you can choose.
I don't see the problem with taking the piss out of people's culture. Crusties having dogs on string, for example, or chavs being chavvish.
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 9:37, closed)
yerr ... you could always just Google and learn what the rest of the world and the law understands by racism
or ... you know ... just make shit up
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 10:44, closed)
or ... you know ... just make shit up
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 10:44, closed)
Argumentum ad populum, eh?
Most of the rest of the world are fucking idiots (particularly the legislators).
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 13:48, closed)
Most of the rest of the world are fucking idiots (particularly the legislators).
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 13:48, closed)
I love it when thick people use Latin terms they don't understand.
An appeal to the masses clearly isn't fallacious when it is supporting a social convention or legislation based upon democracy.
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 14:42, closed)
An appeal to the masses clearly isn't fallacious when it is supporting a social convention or legislation based upon democracy.
( , Fri 30 May 2014, 14:42, closed)
The key word is 'race'.
Culture isn't race. Religion isn't race either.
( , Sat 31 May 2014, 10:57, closed)
Culture isn't race. Religion isn't race either.
( , Sat 31 May 2014, 10:57, closed)
Are you brain dead or just a troll?
Racism is not "offending somnebody about something" it has a very specific linguistic meaning and its legal meaning is becoming nothing like that due to morons like you.
Again -- there is nothing in somebodies genetic makeup that means they wear a silly headdress.
( , Sat 31 May 2014, 16:14, closed)
Racism is not "offending somnebody about something" it has a very specific linguistic meaning and its legal meaning is becoming nothing like that due to morons like you.
Again -- there is nothing in somebodies genetic makeup that means they wear a silly headdress.
( , Sat 31 May 2014, 16:14, closed)
The Penguin Classics Book Of Hillarious Culturally Insensitive Gags
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I would guess thats unfair dismissal as it was said out of hours.
Good luck on getting a freebie lawyer wanting to take it on though.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:00, closed)
Good luck on getting a freebie lawyer wanting to take it on though.
( , Thu 29 May 2014, 18:00, closed)
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