Sexism
Freddie Woo tells us: Despite being a well rounded modern man I think women are best off getting married and having a few kids else they'll be absolutely miserable come middle age.
What views do you have that are probably sexist that you believe are true?
( , Sun 27 Dec 2009, 12:23)
Freddie Woo tells us: Despite being a well rounded modern man I think women are best off getting married and having a few kids else they'll be absolutely miserable come middle age.
What views do you have that are probably sexist that you believe are true?
( , Sun 27 Dec 2009, 12:23)
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Yeah but nah
I wondered about this, then it occurred to me. At some point in a man's life (late teens usually) they get the feeling that they can handle themselves in a fight, the feeling is thatif they got in a fight, they would be able to defend themselves well enough to escape. There is a real sense of power and control here. As a man you feel like you can take care of yourself. This is one reason why young men are so violent (the vast majority of victims and perpetrators of violence are young men): they aren't afraid enough to consciously avoid violence. If a man thinks back to when he was a child, he might recall this implicit fear (maybe not the best word) of adults.
This generally never happens for women. They remain with this subtle fear (again not the best word) of men. If a woman has ever been victim of violence, it makes this more acute. So, there can be a real fear that when the man starts yelling, or wanting to control, that real violence could be around the corner. So the fact of being a woman means a different experience of these things.
I think the solution might be for all women to take high level martial arts. It would be interesting to see what would result.
( , Fri 1 Jan 2010, 11:08, 1 reply)
I wondered about this, then it occurred to me. At some point in a man's life (late teens usually) they get the feeling that they can handle themselves in a fight, the feeling is thatif they got in a fight, they would be able to defend themselves well enough to escape. There is a real sense of power and control here. As a man you feel like you can take care of yourself. This is one reason why young men are so violent (the vast majority of victims and perpetrators of violence are young men): they aren't afraid enough to consciously avoid violence. If a man thinks back to when he was a child, he might recall this implicit fear (maybe not the best word) of adults.
This generally never happens for women. They remain with this subtle fear (again not the best word) of men. If a woman has ever been victim of violence, it makes this more acute. So, there can be a real fear that when the man starts yelling, or wanting to control, that real violence could be around the corner. So the fact of being a woman means a different experience of these things.
I think the solution might be for all women to take high level martial arts. It would be interesting to see what would result.
( , Fri 1 Jan 2010, 11:08, 1 reply)
You speak for yourself
that is utter crap...well the part about women having a subtle fear. In a significant proportion of documented cases, the women know how to push the buttons until they get the male out of control. I have experienced this, although I have never lost it, I have watched as the woman needles and pushes,trying to find the right trigger. I read also of a case of a woman (and several similar) who was a serial punching bag, after being instructed by a support group to cease all contact. This woman persisted in letting her abuser know exactly where she was, and deliberately pushed the buttons until she got her result. In the long run and intervention by a psych it was found that she craved the adrenaline high she got the instant before she was hit. The physical damage was the cost of her addiction.
( , Fri 1 Jan 2010, 23:03, closed)
that is utter crap...well the part about women having a subtle fear. In a significant proportion of documented cases, the women know how to push the buttons until they get the male out of control. I have experienced this, although I have never lost it, I have watched as the woman needles and pushes,trying to find the right trigger. I read also of a case of a woman (and several similar) who was a serial punching bag, after being instructed by a support group to cease all contact. This woman persisted in letting her abuser know exactly where she was, and deliberately pushed the buttons until she got her result. In the long run and intervention by a psych it was found that she craved the adrenaline high she got the instant before she was hit. The physical damage was the cost of her addiction.
( , Fri 1 Jan 2010, 23:03, closed)
Thats interesting..
Because those are relatively rare examples.
If I could add another one to the mix.. My parents were violent. My Mum was violent to me. So was my husband, and so was my ex boyfriend. They really only have to raise their hand once. Then you're terrified on a gut level that you'll get a clump round the head, so your behaviour modifies itself, almost without you being aware of it.
I find it interesting that most men don't feel that. At least until it happens to them. I also find it interesting that the last example was (at this distance) obviously ill, and yet she was "asking for it" somehow.. Makes me wonder whether I was...
Thanks for reading, I'll go and find some crude sexist gags now...
( , Sat 2 Jan 2010, 13:59, closed)
Because those are relatively rare examples.
If I could add another one to the mix.. My parents were violent. My Mum was violent to me. So was my husband, and so was my ex boyfriend. They really only have to raise their hand once. Then you're terrified on a gut level that you'll get a clump round the head, so your behaviour modifies itself, almost without you being aware of it.
I find it interesting that most men don't feel that. At least until it happens to them. I also find it interesting that the last example was (at this distance) obviously ill, and yet she was "asking for it" somehow.. Makes me wonder whether I was...
Thanks for reading, I'll go and find some crude sexist gags now...
( , Sat 2 Jan 2010, 13:59, closed)
My point was
that these are not relatively rare examples here, they have been found commonplace.....the results of the study just didn't met the needs of those who ordered it out so it has not been widely publicised.
( , Wed 6 Jan 2010, 12:55, closed)
that these are not relatively rare examples here, they have been found commonplace.....the results of the study just didn't met the needs of those who ordered it out so it has not been widely publicised.
( , Wed 6 Jan 2010, 12:55, closed)
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