I was (am) a big Star Trek fan
but I never really got in to DS9, until recently when they started showing it on SyFy and I started watching from the start.
So, yeah, thanks for that.
(LemonMeringuePie is rubbish at thinking up user names, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 1:35, 24 replies)

Hahahaha, no girlfriend.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 2:45, closed)

Funnily enough
I have also recently started watching DS9 for the first time. Never managed to get into it on TV and the first season is dull as anything. Then I read that it gets good from season 3, so I've started there and it's brilliant, identical tone to Next Gen and very nearly as good.

I'd just like to take this opportunity to say fuck Voyager, and fuck the new film (Into Darkness) even more.
(Eukanuba, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 13:28, closed)

Yes, Voyager Sucks
It was the worst of the bunch. If any one of the newer shows deserved to have been cancelled it was Voyager, not Enterprise. It was just so... bland! You could have killed of any of the main characters and no one would have noticed or cared.

As to DS9, I'd have to say that is the best. The first couple of seasons are a bit slower, but they're better than the first two seasons of The Next Generation. As it is set in one place (rather than having a ship that flies off at the end of the episode), actions can have consequences, plus there's a rather good cast of recurring characters. It also tells some rather darker tales than The Next Generation could get away with ("In the Pale Moonlight" is an excellent example of this).

On the subject of the Dax spoiler, anyone who was following news of the show before it started airing knew it was going to happen and when. They had a character (or half of one!) they could kill off then bring back almost immediately as someone else to add a new twist to the series, plus everyone had six year contracts. Seemed rather obvious at the time.
(An eejit passing by in a purple satin skirt with sparkly bits, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 15:29, closed)

DS9 is a rancid pile of donkey's arse custard
Voyager shits all over that steaming logpile
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 16:01, closed)

I'm with you
I couldn't take Sisco seriously because of his habit of being incredibly camp and defensive at least once per show. He kept fluttering his eyelashes and rolling his eyes!

OTOH, Janeway's recurring wryly-raised-eyebrow/mumsy smile was genius and we looked forward to it every week.

The best show was whatever had 7 of 9 in it
(CADmonkey rollllllllled another one, just like the other one, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 18:05, closed)

I love it when people argue about who was the best Star Wars.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 18:06, closed)

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 20:17, closed)

Seven of Nine was the later seasons of Voyager
Season 4 I think, she replaced the irredeemably irritating three-year-old Kes.

Having watched a few episodes of DS9 recently, I think Sisko is as good a 'captain' as Picard, except he's more firey. But he still sticks to the rules whilst being completely awesome.

Picard, Sisko and all of their crew members are well-developed, sympathetic characters. Everyone on Voyager is ridiculous, two-dimensional and boring.
(Eukanuba, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 23:35, closed)

shit i'd forgotten about Kes
and those aliens they kept meeting that were all ripoffs of Middenface McNulty

TBH I liked all of the STs, even Enterprise.

And the Jem Hadar were the best baddies. I love The Borg, but they just didn't do sarcasm.

There's an art deco hotel in Rejkyavik called The Borg

Sisko was a big hammy flake too often though. He was always either Rambo or his own mother
(CADmonkey rollllllllled another one, just like the other one, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 16:30, closed)

janeway was often funny
in a quite cynical way. i liked that. sisko annoyed the fuck out of me. don't even get me started on the o'briens.
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 11 Jun 2013, 14:42, closed)

You are incorrect
Voyager is far too whimsical and the characters are either completely dull or irritatingly 'comedic' (Neelix being the worst offender).

Next Gen and DS9 have genuinely funny moments that are entirely derived from the believable characters being put in appropriate situations. They also both have intriguing plots that are resolved in interesting yet logical ways (Wesley Crusher deus ex machinas notwithstanding).

I wish Voyager was good, but it just isn't. The whole premise with them unable to contact the rest of humanity limits the scope of it far too much. It's all stupid fucking action sequences and it doesn't make you care what happens.

TNG and DS9 make you think about how good people could be if they set aside their irrelevant differences, Voyager makes you wish they'd all just fuck off.
(Eukanuba, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 23:32, closed)

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh my.... hahahaahhahahaah
" believable characters" I can barely stand for laughing "being put in appropriate situations." wow, just wow.
Star Trek is a whimsical kids TV program -- I can't believe that a grown adult could take it seriously enough to even post this.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 0:03, closed)

Voyager is the only one you could watch?
That's also the only one that's a whimsical kids' show.

Is your username a Nine Inch Nails reference?
(Eukanuba, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 1:29, closed)

Yes, they're all whimsical kids shows.
I just found Voyager was less up its own arse than the rest so was watchable.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 10:08, closed)

You need to re-read what you have posted here.
Then ask yourself some very serious questions about yourself and your life - and at which point it took such a horrendous wrong turn.


Then kill yourself.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 8:33, closed)

I'm pretty content with my life
And watching Star Trek makes me happy and that's nothing to be ashamed of.

I only wear my uniform two or three times a week, and only in public for my monthly shop. I don't even speak Klingon unless the cashier is a particularly attractive girl that I want to impress.
(Eukanuba, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 16:34, closed)

I'm going to out myself and agree with this,
as it's a pretty good analysis of why TNG and DS9 were good shows, and Voyager wasn't.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 10:07, closed)

I too am in agreement with your sentiment Ms. Smash.

(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Mon 10 Jun 2013, 8:48, closed)

Voyager was the only one I could watch.
The rest bored me to tears.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 18:25, closed)

TOS and TNG were fine
but DS9 annoyed me far more than it should.
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 11 Jun 2013, 14:44, closed)

The pressed-shirt "intellectual military" tone of most of them gets on my tits.
I can watch the odd episode of any Trek but there's almost always some "clever" observation of human nature showing through that makes it even harder to deal with. It's a lot like Dr Who without the fun and the sexy characters.
(I like your status [or whatever it's called], by the way, if I was in my "high school year book" I think I'd be voted "Most likely to be featured in a story ending '...before turning the gun on himself.'")
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Tue 11 Jun 2013, 20:50, closed)

Yeah, if you don't like that you won't like any of them
Personally I love the way it gives interesting angles on human nature, but then I'm mostly autistic so that's probably why.
(Eukanuba, Wed 12 Jun 2013, 1:00, closed)

Is that the one with Jar Jar Briggs in it?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Sun 9 Jun 2013, 18:54, closed)