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(, Thu 13 Oct 2011, 12:52)
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Who buys the Daily Fail? that is.. a mystery
I have never seen the bodies with imploded heads.
(as "nature abhors a vacuum")
But surely they should be there? logic says it must be so.
Who is tampering with the evidence?
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 22:13, 35 replies)
middle england
everyone that's racist homophobic and misogynistic but either doesn't realise it or has enough sense to hide their true feelings behind triteness

my nan buys it
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 22:18, closed)
My mum buys it, I am somewhat ashamed to say.
She claims it's "just for the TV guide", which is probably the female equivalent of men who say they buy Playboy for the articles, but she also thinks all Muslims are terrorists and all immigrants and single parents are the spawn of the Devil. This, in blissful unawareness of the fact that she is both an immigrant and a single parent herself.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 22:30, closed)
What I was getting at is how many times have you seen someone buy it in a shop?
I have asked a whole statistically insignificant 2 newsagents where I live and they have said the vast majority are delivered and the few shop ones left get many returns.
rhaps the anonymity emboldens them. ( like jazzmag buyers? )

Shameful shoddy piece of arse wipe. My aunty buys it and does say sometimes it makes her uncomfortable. whether that is for it`s content or guilt at knowing you shouldn`t be supporting a paper that thought Hitler was a good egg and Margaret Roberts a caring approachable academic with the country`s best interest at heart, remains only almost fit to arse wipe with.

None of the papers can afford to be preachy. especially not the consistent offenders, see private eye.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:03, closed)
Of course
Actually going into a shop in person and buying the Heil is like going in to pick up your copy of NAMBLA Monthly. Short of wearing a paper bag over your head and being mistaken for a particularly inept robber, who'd do that?
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 8:22, closed)
Without wanting to open up a discussion.
Not everything in Das Scheitern is actually wrong, and there is an argument that, for example, political Correctness has gone mad.
If you've a small business and the government keeps telling you you have to pay more and more for things like no-smoking signs while you're noticing that a load of people called "Patel" share the same drivers license then you may start to see the world a certain way.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 22:44, closed)
They're actually all different people called Patel
but Daily Mail readers think they look the same.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:00, closed)
Patel isn`t a surname
It`s a status/job description. the English in india didn`t get that he is xxx yyy patel, or just xxxx patel. That is a village elder/official person.

If you cane to a town in this country from abroad in the same way and got involved in the running there would be a lot of people whose names would be xxx yyy mayor and xxx yyy councillor, secretary... and so on. lots of councillors=big family? give it some time.
250 years on we still have patel and a number of these appended to indian`s real names because that is what was written by the raj and has stayed.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:32, closed)
I thought it was a bit of both.
I've known a few people called Smith who didn't know how to make anything from Iron and a couple of Fletchers who had no idea how to make an arrow.
I also worked with an Op Den Brouw who hadn't a clue how to produce a good pint.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:41, closed)
Come on.
You know this is liable to trigger an epic shitstorm. If people with small-minded, racists views of the world (and there are many such people, for they have not received a decent enough education to teach them any better) are given legitimacy for their beliefs by seeing them printed in a national tabloid, they will become ever-increasingly entrenched in their view that theirs is a socially acceptable belief structure, and that is exactly how far-right parties get elected and start ripping communities apart at the seams.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:02, closed)
I suppose my point is that sometimes the small-minded racists are threatened.
Racism and Political Correctness are both exploited so much by the press and politicians that it's hard to know what is actually happening.
Add to that the fact that some people aren't well paid, and are from families who weren't well paid, and are continually ignored by politicians and you find yourself with parties like the British National Pricks being a good choice for some people.
If you're, for example, an ill-educated white male in Bradford then your best chance for a job is the BNP. Why would anyone care about morals when they're poor and see a seemingly good answer?
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:36, closed)
Have you ever been poor?
Have you ever lived in or near Bradford?
Do you know what political correctness actually is?

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:37, closed)
I've lived near Bradford all my life.
I've also heard funny stories from my family who live there about not being able to say "blackboard" and less funny stories about gangs of asian lads beating up white lads for being white.
Is that enough for you?
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:43, closed)
I can believe the first bit, but I'd gladly bet you're making the rest of it up.
There's no excuse for endorsing far-right paramilitary groups, even if you didn't do well in the lottery of life. It's pure stupidity, arrogance and animal instinct.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:48, closed)
You can beleive what you want.
Do you live in Bradford? If you do I'm very surprised you've not heard about the casual racism against whites in certain areas and the, admittedly fairly rare, violence.
I am in no way suggesting that the BNP should ever be voted for -- I am merely pointing out that for some people it looks like a good idea.
Edit: The "blackboard" thing is true, apparently asking for your coffee "black" is frowned upon also.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:53, closed)
I work in south-east Bradford and live just outside.

(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:57, closed)
Where do you live then chief?
I live in BD2, and I'm white, and I walk through BD3 on a regular basis and here I am all alive and stuff.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:04, closed)
I'm a Leodian,
I'm also not suggesting that Bradford is some kind of race war (well, not this week [sorry bad joke]).
I have, however, heard a few stories about anti-white racism and know that it only takes a few instances to make a generalisation.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:09, closed)
Don't generalise then
This isn't a happy city, but you're ascribing the unhappiness to the wrong demographic.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:26, closed)
Not my generalisation.
I was (am) trying to explain why some people may think the Daily Fail has it right.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:28, closed)
This is a massively failed city
I referred to Detroit earlier and Bradford has become our Detroit.

I think we have to accept that we're now in post-post industrialism. There is nothing here at all.

There may be other local economies in a similar blighted wasteland but all there is now is a void that BD3 and BD9 fight over.

How do you pull yourself out of it? Well, Croydon did. You accept that Bradford is a subservient economy to Leeds and focus on the only sustainable local economy to drag yourself out of the morass.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:43, closed)
"Edit: The "blackboard" thing is true, apparently asking for your coffee "black" is frowned upon also"
Proof, please: I can't find any reference to it other than as example of "political correctness gone mad!!!"
Learn from Theresa May's Catgate: Just because enough right-wing papers print a story it doesn't actually make it true.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 12:56, closed)
Sorry Woodside
But he's quite right.

The BNP are scooping the vote that hardline Labour should have, if they'd not been diluted to nothing by Tory B Liar.

And I live in Bradford.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:44, closed)
Those book-burning bastards will be the death of us.

(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:52, closed)
There are all sorts of urban myths in this shitehole of a city
The bottom line, to me, is that behaviour and not race will topple the edifice.

The city is full of chavs of various hue. Don't scream at the Islamic section - what have the white massive of Buttershaw and Canterbury done?

This - and I've said this before - is the next Detroit 1966.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:59, closed)
The white massive have done fuck all.
But that doesn't mean they won't buy the Fail and see it as some kind of proof that they're being shafted out of something by the Asian population.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:06, closed)
You aren't seriously defending the far right are you?
You cock.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:11, closed)
What part of "The white massive have done fuck all" do you not understand?
There's a difference between understanding why someone would believe something and believing it yourself. I could suggest why someone may think that the world was flat, for example...
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:12, closed)
The tension here
Is intra - Islamic.

And it will explode. As above, I'm not racist. Racism implies a discrimination against anyone of a certain colour which is nonsensical.

I can't pretend to understand the distinctions between sects but there's a real edge now.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:19, closed)
B3tans.

(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:00, closed)
*kneels in the B3ta confessional*
Sometimes I click through to a Heil link, either through Stumbleupon or B3ta.

And then I happen to click through to the bikini pictures on the right hand side. And again, and again for about 10 minutes.

God, it's like Hitler's Kays catalogue...
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:14, closed)
The bodies are disposed of in the night
by readers of The Economist.
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:16, closed)

Last I heard, it was being prescribed for people with low blood pressure...
(, Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:42, closed)
^ this

(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 0:00, closed)
My sister-in-law buys it.
She also works at the front line of the tax office, dealing with emergency loans.

She makes Hitler look like a limp-wristed middle-class fashion victim getting all over-excited about going on the next anti-capitalism demo.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:58, closed)
My mother-in-law...
...buys it. She was a 'highly respected' primary school teacher for many years probably moulding little minds into miniature daily mail readers.

As someone famous wittily once said:

I've always been a Daily Mail reader; I prefer it to a newspaper.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 18:45, closed)

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