Oasis- pish pish utter pish
Agreed. I don't mean to sound so cunitsh though- I do get riled when I encounter the old 'you can only like either electronic or acoustic music' thing, which I experience a lot. As I've said, I love all sorts of stuff, from Shellac, Big Black, Sunn O))), Kyuss through to Boards of Canada, Autechre and Goldie.

Also, yes, Sean Paul is gash, but Public Enemy (sampled Slayer), Mos Def (uses a live funk metal band) and Squarepusher (possibly the finest living bass player) are wonderful musicians who may not fit the 'real music/ metal' template, but 'rockers' would love. DJing is another performance medium- I don't read Ballard in the same way I read Ellis, ditto listening to electronic Vs acoustic. Leonard Cohen on the dancefloor would be shit, just as Drums of Death in a gin sodden 4 am introspection ting wouldn't work.

Don't assume that because I appreciate Richard D James I can't/ won't/ don't appreciate Steve Albini.

Weirdly, that sort of music snobbery really really riles the fuck out of me. Why is 'performed' music any more valid than electronic music? That is akin to thinking that writing produced via a typewriter is more 'real' than writing produced from a laptop.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 2:31, 1 reply)

Yeh, but Technics an instrument?
You're having a larf innit.

It's a record player. When it's something you can get graded for playing, I might believe you.

'What instrument do you play?'
'Dansette'

Hmm...
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 14:43, closed)

Turntables are an instrument.
Check out the Scratch Perverts:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqvWrK_jf3w

Or Kentaro:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLQG0TAp_s&feature=related

Or Kid Koala playing Moon River:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouFjqeo0f34&feature=related

or drunk trumpet: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5oK4PCCoM
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 16:33, closed)

Nope
I've had a look, does nowt for me, looks like a bunch of blokes fucking about with other peoples music.

If it's an instrument, it's for playing records on.

I once saw some Formula One techie playing about with a car and he got the engine notes to play 'God Save The Queen'. It doesn't make it a musical instrument, it's still a car.

I refer you to my previous reply.
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:00, closed)

So you missed the bit where the Perverts were scratching without any records?
Using the platter, stylus and mixer to make music?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:53, closed)

Music?
I thought that music had a melody, you know, like a tune, a rhythm and a beat. I've played guitar for about 20 years and that's what I've been led to believe. I've just watched the Perverts vid all the way through and that's 6 minutes of my life wasted.
The bit you refer to was random clicks and buzzes, not music. If you think that's music, you should watch a video of the Clangers. You'll have an orgasm.
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Sat 1 Jan 2011, 16:27, closed)

i would just like you to know
i'm laughing like a twat at this
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 6 Jan 2011, 0:55, closed)