Ummm?
Having your partner thinking about you in a sexual context is comparable to rape?
OK. I think this conversation just took a turn for the twilight zone.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:08, archived)
Having your partner thinking about you in a sexual context is comparable to rape?
OK. I think this conversation just took a turn for the twilight zone.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:08, archived)
yeah, mentally it is.
I mean, I can hardly consent to it if I'm not even there, can I?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:09, archived)
I mean, I can hardly consent to it if I'm not even there, can I?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:09, archived)
no, come off it.
you can't stop people having fantasies about stabbing you to death either, but you wouldn't want to know about it.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:14, archived)
you can't stop people having fantasies about stabbing you to death either, but you wouldn't want to know about it.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:14, archived)
CIRCULAR ARGUMENT.
What if it's NOT rape?
How can a thought be rape? Really? How?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:20, archived)
What if it's NOT rape?
How can a thought be rape? Really? How?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:20, archived)
by being non consensual.
I don't consent to being thought about in a sexy way.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:21, archived)
I don't consent to being thought about in a sexy way.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:21, archived)
You can't consent to a thought process in someone else's mind.
You can't censor someone else's thoughts.
Sorry to push this one, but if 'God' gave us freewill, he essentially signed a waiver on your behalf.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:23, archived)
You can't censor someone else's thoughts.
Sorry to push this one, but if 'God' gave us freewill, he essentially signed a waiver on your behalf.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:23, archived)
Well, quite.
That's exactly why it would make me feel used, and actually really quite powerless.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:25, archived)
That's exactly why it would make me feel used, and actually really quite powerless.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:25, archived)
You're actually mental.
I'd suggest removing all five of your senses, and becoming a PVS mong.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:28, archived)
I'd suggest removing all five of your senses, and becoming a PVS mong.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:28, archived)
And how many chaps have you ever thought about in a sexy way?
Seriously, it's human nature, you can't help urges. With your rules, pretty much everyone would end up in prison.
I can sort of understand what you mean, objectification and all that (you great big feminist), but there's nothing that can stop it. It's just part of life.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:24, archived)
Seriously, it's human nature, you can't help urges. With your rules, pretty much everyone would end up in prison.
I can sort of understand what you mean, objectification and all that (you great big feminist), but there's nothing that can stop it. It's just part of life.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:24, archived)
I'm not actually advocating putting people in prison for thinking about sex.
Although in answer to your question: none.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:26, archived)
Although in answer to your question: none.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:26, archived)
It's fair enough if sex just doesn't do it for you
but you can't expect sexytime daydreams not to happen. It just....doesn't work like that.
And I know you're not advocating imprisonment, that was my extreme example :)
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:29, archived)
but you can't expect sexytime daydreams not to happen. It just....doesn't work like that.
And I know you're not advocating imprisonment, that was my extreme example :)
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:29, archived)
no it just wouldn't make me feel very good
if someone told me about it.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:34, archived)
if someone told me about it.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:34, archived)
He's not imagining raping you
he's imagining you consenting and enjoying it. If you got a text saying "hi hun been thinking about raping u, got me hot, xx" or something, I'd see your point.
If he was enjoying daydreaming about going to the park with you for a lovely walk, would you object on the grounds that you don't like going to the park?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:25, archived)
he's imagining you consenting and enjoying it. If you got a text saying "hi hun been thinking about raping u, got me hot, xx" or something, I'd see your point.
If he was enjoying daydreaming about going to the park with you for a lovely walk, would you object on the grounds that you don't like going to the park?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:25, archived)
Hmm yeah
actually a good point. Although if he was imagining me doing something I really hated, however innocent, I'd kind of wonder why he was imagining me being like somebody else.
It's just the idea of being thought of as a sexual thing, to me, it's horrid.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:30, archived)
actually a good point. Although if he was imagining me doing something I really hated, however innocent, I'd kind of wonder why he was imagining me being like somebody else.
It's just the idea of being thought of as a sexual thing, to me, it's horrid.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:30, archived)
I promise I'll do my best not to
but you can have sex without treating someone like an object, despite what internet links might have you believe.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:35, archived)
but you can have sex without treating someone like an object, despite what internet links might have you believe.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:35, archived)
OK. I'm imagining slashing my colleague's face off with a rusty meathook.
Is that in any way comparable with, say, slashing his face off with a rusty meathook?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:13, archived)
Is that in any way comparable with, say, slashing his face off with a rusty meathook?
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:13, archived)
No of course it isn't, you point-missing tit.
If you told him about it I shouldn't think he'd be very happy though.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:16, archived)
If you told him about it I shouldn't think he'd be very happy though.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:16, archived)
You wouldn't text him to tell him about it (if you liked him anyway, which, if you're imagining that, you probably don't. Er.)
The difference is trust and knowing someone well enough to know they'll appreciate it, like Webbie and her gentleman friend obviously have.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:19, archived)
The difference is trust and knowing someone well enough to know they'll appreciate it, like Webbie and her gentleman friend obviously have.
( , Mon 10 Dec 2007, 13:19, archived)