Why are there no black b3tans?

( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:36, archived)

who do you think
cleans the board?
(Quatermass and teh Shit, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:37, archived)

The squeedgie
is black.
( sprinkles ITS AN ISLAND, morron, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:42, archived)

I had wondered that myself

( Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:38, archived)

We let the gingers on...
...that's fackin' bad enough!

/Alf Garnett
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:38, archived)

Serious qeustion.
In three years on this board I have met one person from sub-continental Asia, and one of mixed race. b3ta is almost 100% white and middle class. Why?
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:40, archived)

because the internet
is a white mans magic
(Quatermass and teh Shit, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:42, archived)

I have no idea....
....why don't you form a focus group and draw up a quota list?

/police recruitment boss
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:43, archived)

I'm not being funny,
or having a go at anyone, I'm looking for some genuine suggestions at to why we're turning into a whites only club.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:44, archived)

so because no black people have joined
we're a "whites only" club?

How many forums *anywhere* do you know with a black population?
(Quatermass and teh Shit, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:45, archived)

www.iamblackandlovinit.com/forum
( NAWS Whats all this then, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:49, archived)

*beats head against wall repeatedly*
okay. over the lifetime of b3ta, there have probaly been something like 1000 regular posters on b3ta. this is obviously a complete guess. i have probably met about, at a very rough guess, 5-600 of them. and seen photos of possibly twice as many again. they come from all walks of life - and all parts of the world. in this country, britain, they come from everywhere. i can't think of a major town or city without a b3tan in it.

and of all of those people, only one has been black (well, mixed race, to be literal). and he's one of the most regular posters on here. i don't think that moore is trying to make some sort of PC point here - just pointing out that it's singularly unrepresentative of any sort of modern society. and thinking it's odd. which it is.
( 100% of Gibbon, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:15, archived)

Thank
you.

It's an issue about access to technology more than anything.

BAH!
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:18, archived)

b3ta isn't a parallel of society. It's more like a sub-culture, only a section of it
It's part of the much larger internet, which is far easier to compare to modern society, because of the multiple subcultures found within it.
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:22, archived)

We realise that, we accept that,
we're just asking why it is. It's not an accusation (I may have used some accusatory language earlier, which I won't edit for the sake of fairness), it's just pondering why this state of afairs exists.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:24, archived)

I guess it's just human nature to group together with people similar to your self

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:27, archived)

this much is true.
but even the little corner of if little england in which i grew up, there were ethnic minorities all nearly all varieties. you get it even in the deepest darkest countryside nowadays.

i'm not suggesting that b3ta is a parallel of society - god help us all if it is - but it is, if you think about it, a peculiar statistic.

as moore said vvdown therevv somewhere, i too couldn't care less. it is just odd.
( 100% of Gibbon, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:27, archived)

that sounds like the klan

( Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:47, archived)

Possibly things like....
....the KKK picture competition don't help?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:49, archived)

I reject that,
I'm going to say again I genuinely do not know why it is. I think anyone with a sense of humour would have found that funny. Humour is pretty universal.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:51, archived)

I'm sure that...
...a whole weeks worth of close-to-the-mark humour about extreme right wing groups wouldn't at all be intimidating to someone who has almost certainly been on the wrong end of prejudice based on their skin composition.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:06, archived)

Depends on the individual.
I doubt there's anyone here who hasn't been marginalised by at least one thread of humour on b3ta. Some spit the dummy, some stay.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:09, archived)

But by the same chalk....
.....if you're going to use the 'calm down dear it's only a talk board' argument doesn't that make all your liberal guilt about b3ta's white middle classness somewhat irrelevent?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:16, archived)

There is no guilt.
It's merely an observation, followed by a question.

A "this is the way it is" followed by "why is it this way?".

That's all.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:20, archived)

that reminds me of a time on another forum
when a user asked if there a "Disabled User's account list".

Boy did he get a roasting from some idiot PC drone who wanted them to be refered to as "less able bodied" people and that a list of the wheel chaired users was wrong.
(Quatermass and teh Shit, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:45, archived)

fuckin
spacks
( NAWS Whats all this then, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:51, archived)

Maybe
you have discovered the truth behind Rob's Nickname of 'The ginger fuhrer'
(Pimms'N'Lemonade thinks you are a twat, prove me wrong., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:44, archived)

*sigh*
I can't think of a poor joke about beating someone black and blue without it sounding too bad
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:39, archived)

Because this site is very middle-class white
I guess
(Naughty Tortoise, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:39, archived)

I agree
but why?
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:40, archived)

christ, tht is fairly deep
it's totally thrown me
( Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:43, archived)

It just is
Founded by middle class white people, frequented by middle class white people

Get away with you, and your 'whys'!
*chases with a broom*
(Naughty Tortoise, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:47, archived)

WHY gwt all angsty about it?
I don't see, for example, the folk music community getting all focus groupy and quota-y about their ethnic listenership or likewise the asian community trying to attract more people into Bollywood movies, there are, frankly, better things to get all concerned about than how much melanin the average b3tan carries in their skin cells.

If you wanted to start a SERIOUS debate on race you might want to question why their are a greater proportion of afro caribbeans in prison or that afro caribbeans are a dan sight more likely to be sectioned into institutional care.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:57, archived)

I don't think he wanted a serious debate,
just one out of curiosity
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:58, archived)

Why then get all middle class liberal angsty about then...
...and NOT expect to possibly have to engage in serious debate?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:02, archived)

I think I'm missing the point,
but it has made a fairly interesting thread
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:04, archived)

This is what I'm on about.
I'm *not* angsty about it. This is the kind of comment I'm looking for. I'm not sure I agree, but at least you've thought about it.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:03, archived)

What is this?
some third rate media studies group discussion?

We discuss norks, and drinking, and bigotted opnions of people who are not the same as us.
Oh, and we also discuss bumming a lot for some reason.
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:10, archived)

Then why be so concerned with b3ta's ethnic breakdown?

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:10, archived)

To be honest
I'm not.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:12, archived)

Then I believe we have a concord on something.
*takes off debating hat and thinks about going to bed*
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:22, archived)

There are
They tend not to feel the need to shout about it.
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:40, archived)

Is this a new thing I have missed?
Speaking as someone who has been with b3ta for a long time, this has been a topic of discussion for a while. I've met alot of people from here, and believe me it would ease my mind if the silent minority would pipe up.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:42, archived)

Why would it make any difference if you knew if someone was black or white,

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:44, archived)

It would ease his pinko, lefty Grauniad reading soul
/Mykeyboy
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:45, archived)

None whatsoever,
Until I meet people in real life, and then you tend to get a clue.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:45, archived)

they steal
your wallet?
(Quatermass and teh Shit, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:46, archived)

Are you
planning to butcher them?

edit: ninja'd
( sprinkles ITS AN ISLAND, morron, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:47, archived)

There could be any number of black people lurking/ non active member, it's probably unlikely though.
I think it's just we still seem to have very serparated cultures, and like naughty tortoise said (up or down there?) it was started by a group of friends, and the community has probably stayed similar to the original one
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:51, archived)

It's not new
on a couple of occassions where we have had a rare serious discussion people have confessed their skin colour. I think they should speak up for themselves like the gingers do so that people can see we are not racist we just hate everybody.
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:45, archived)

I'm just
trying to provoke some debate. I can only speak for the representive sample I've met.
( supermoore: HUNG, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:48, archived)

I understand that
perhaps with the internet being anonymous everyone can be anyone.
They don't have to be themselves. I like not having to tell everyone about me, (then blow it all by getting pissed and confessing things I regret next morning).

I am black but by some freak of nature I had white parents, and my mother swears she was never unfaithful.
Damn I must stop drinking.
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:54, archived)

unlike the gays
you mean?
(Quatermass and teh Shit, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:43, archived)

*bums*

(Naughty Tortoise, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:50, archived)

Whilst...
....in pink tent..
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:53, archived)

Whilst...
...reading the Grauniad
(Naughty Tortoise, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:00, archived)

...and advising on interior design
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Sat 2 Jul 2005, 1:03, archived)

NAME ONE.

( sprinkles ITS AN ISLAND, morron, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:44, archived)

luther vandross

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:47, archived)

shit - outed and died all in the same day
not a good start to b3ta
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:49, archived)

cos
thay cant afford a pc?
( NAWS Whats all this then, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:47, archived)

They're all too cool

(SquidHead, Sat 2 Jul 2005, 0:58, archived)