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Speaking of Gobshite statistics:
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1679975,00.html
(I helped save b3ta! Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:21, archived)
Oh for fuck's sake.
This whole instilling a climate of fear bollocks just makes me want to HULK SMASH.
(I helped save b3ta! Lonewolf - O R'lyeh? Ya R'lyeh!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:23, archived)
As a statistician
I would be interested in knowing more about their data collection methods, and about their sampling frame, as well as their definition of what consitutes a gun. Some of our figures here have seemed a little high, until you realise that air guns and BB guns have been included - it's not necessarily all illegal handguns and pistols.
(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:25, archived)

statistician sex pest
(I helped save b3ta! Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:28, archived)
PEST?!?
Symbol I'll grant you. Kitten I'd allow you. -Pert Would be OK.

Pest I think is unfair.
(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:30, archived)
I think you mean
"artist formally known as Prince"

:P
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:33, archived)
I don't get it

(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:37, archived)
"symbol"
was what I was referring to. but you probably didn't get it cos it wasn't funny ;)
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:38, archived)
And that they asked ten kids in Peckham
I think Charlton Heston has the right idea, arm them all, and let them die as free men!
(I helped save b3ta! Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:30, archived)
In that case I'm surprised the figure's as low as 1 in 10
When I was a youngster it was pretty common to carry airguns & BB (Big Brother) guns around.

Mind you, I lived in quite a rural area where there wasn't much to do apart from shooting things (and marrying into the extended family).
(I helped save b3ta! Johnny Catfish - Yowsa!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:30, archived)
I like the fact that they wait until the ninth paragraph, before mentioning that
only kids in Central London were surveyed.

I also found "More than half of the children said that they could easily get hold of a knife," to be particularly shocking - I wonder where they could get them from? I say we ban cutlery, and ban it now!
(I helped save b3ta! monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:25, archived)
and they asked teenage boys
who want to look hard in front of their mates.

I'd love to know why it never seems to occur to people who do these surveys that everyone in the world, to a greater or lesser degree, lies to make themselves seem cooler/more interesting/more attractive to the opposite sex.
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:31, archived)
Researchers reveal
6 out of 10 boys between 14 and 16 have had sex with Angelina Jolie, and she loved it.

Police are currently questioning Ms Jolie.
(I helped save b3ta! Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:34, archived)
Whereas only 3 out of 10 boys in Santa Maria
claim to have slept with Michael Jackson.
(I helped save b3ta! Johnny Catfish - Yowsa!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:42, archived)
That risk
is very much reduced if data is collected by self response, confidential questionnaires, for example. My concern about truthfulness would be less than my concerns about sampling or definitions.
(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:35, archived)
In most cases
I agree with you. But not where teenagers are concerned. doesn't matter that it is confidential self response, they'll lie, especially the boys. It's one of the founding principles of the universe...
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:37, archived)
I really disagree
I work on a youth crime study, and we've triangulated results sufficiently to let us conclude that our lot are enormously truthful.

It all depends on your methods - not on the truthfulness or otherwise of young people.
(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:39, archived)
Tie them to a chair, and give them the rubber hose treatment, until they confess?
Or just interpret the data in such a way that "I carry an AK-47, and lead the East Cheam Massive on regular crime sprees" becomes "I stay at home and play far too much X-box"?

Either way, I salute your dedication to the truth!
(I helped save b3ta! monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:48, archived)
well, this is your area,
so I'll bow to you on this one. :P
(I helped save b3ta! the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:57, archived)
Yep.
Same thing when they survey young people on their sexual habits - invariably, you come away with the impression that they're all at it, all of the time, when a little common sense should remind you that teenage boys will always lie when it comes to sex.

Muppets.
(I helped save b3ta! monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:35, archived)
Fear drives? What kind of a poncy excuse is that?
It's society's fault that you're unable to walk along the street without feeling threatened? No, I think it's your own, you paranoid little shit. If any real threats turn up I hope they destroy your face.
(I helped save b3ta! Reid got it going on like Donkey Kong, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 10:29, archived)