cold shower
possibly change my mind about voting.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:54, archived)

VOTE MAN PET.

( Jam Master Geordie Hero of B3ta., Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:55, archived)

What's the point?
I don't know what any of the candidates stand for, so it would effectively be a random decision, and the European Parliament doesn't even do anything anyway.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:56, archived)

Votefor the one with the silliest name.

( Jam Master Geordie Hero of B3ta., Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:57, archived)

Because then you can complain when the country goes even further along the road to hell in a handbasket.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:58, archived)

or more honestly
you can't be arsed to find out what the european parliament does.
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:01, archived)

I know what it does.
It does piss all. The European Commission does it all, and they're not elected. All the European Parliament have the power to do is get upset about it.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:02, archived)

It's retarded opinions like this that mean the voting system isn't that fair.
It should be illegal to not vote, then at least the numbers would be more accurate.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:03, archived)

It doesn't really matter how accurate the numbers are,
when they concern a completely ineffectual non-government.
I voted in the national and Scottish elections.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:06, archived)

You really are an imbecile.
Either that, or dekion's sock puppet account.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:07, archived)

Youn are.
You appear to be labouring under the misapprehension that the European parliament isn't an absolute farce of an elaborate pretence at democracy.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:08, archived)

your understanding
of EU decision making is out of date by a treaty or two. you're almost at UKIP levels.
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:09, archived)

FUCK YOU I WON'T TIDY MY BEDROOM etc.
Grow up.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:10, archived)

you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that it is.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:11, archived)

True or false:
European legislation is proposed by the European Commission, which is appointed, not elected.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:13, archived)

yeah!
they wanna make the queen eat straight bananas!
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:15, archived)

true or false

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:15, archived)

THEY RILLY DOOO

( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:20, archived)

i forgot how stupid your arguments were.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:20, archived)

The President of the European Commission's wife has a terrible perm

TRUE OR FALSE?
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:22, archived)

Harriet Harman once single-handedly fought off a gang of bikers when they tried to steal her wind-up radio.
TRUE OR FALSE?
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:32, archived)

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S DOG IS REALLY A FRENCH ROBOT

OMG! True or false?
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:33, archived)

TRUE

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:35, archived)

true or false: the council asks the commission to come up with this legislation

true or false: the council and parliament both have the power to knock said legislation on its head or completely change it
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:21, archived)

is that some kind of answer?
ok.
true. But the council isn't who I'm voting for here either.
true. The "parliament" is similar to the House of Lords in that respect, although it has to make its decision in parallel with the Council of Ministers, which is also not elected.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:26, archived)

hahahaha, what I said is true so I'm right

the council is made up of the elected governments of the member states, I'm not sure it's fair to complain that we don't get to vote in all of the elections.
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:32, archived)

yes well I do vote in national elections.
only I struggle to find the enthusiasm to vote for a body of people who can't actually implement any policies I agree with (which is normally how I'd make my decision), but can only delay or revise legislation that I can't possibly predict in advance.

(what I said was true as well, btw...)
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:35, archived)

did you know that my mother once punched Jacques Delors' horse?
www.b3ta.com/talk/6198176
( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:37, archived)

I don't know what is going on here,
this is most peculiar technique.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:39, archived)

she's left handed

( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:41, archived)

I stand by my original point

( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:05, archived)

as in the party you support
or as in actually doing it?
(thediscokingpin, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:55, archived)

actually doing it.
it would involve getting dressed and leaving the house and I can't be bothered.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:57, archived)

I would officially note you as stupid if you don't.
Or at least take every oppotunity to remind you that your political opinions are null on the basis that when you had a chance to have your say you didn't take it.

And i'll burn your embassy.
(thediscokingpin, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 13:59, archived)

^This.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:00, archived)

Picking a party on the basis of no information is not "having your say".

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:00, archived)

Then do a bit of research.
It's all readily available on your local internets.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:00, archived)

it's not like you don't have the time to find out

( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:01, archived)

I dont like to berate you, but (correct me if i'm wrong of course) you aren't doing anything else
so why not read the manifestos and form an opinion.
A weak vote is still better than none.
(thediscokingpin, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:02, archived)

because it's thoroughly dull.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:03, archived)

Yeah, it's only important if you give a flying fuck how the country is run.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:05, archived)

It's not about how the country is run,
it's about how Europe isn't run.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:06, archived)

It's all going to be the same thing eventually.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:08, archived)

That's something I'd vote against.
I'd have voted against the Euro constitution if it had got far enough for us to be given a chance, and I'd vote against it again unless they sorted one out that wasn't blatantly idiotic.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:10, archived)

that's why people like you aren't allowed to decide stuff like that

( 100% kitten better than ever, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:12, archived)

vote UKIP then?

(thediscokingpin, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:13, archived)

No they're a bunch of sabotaging fools.
I'd vote yes to a European constitution that actually made sense, because I'm not against Europe on principle.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:14, archived)

I wont deabte it any
further with you. But at least vote for somone who serves some (one even)of your interests.
(thediscokingpin, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:21, archived)

Fair enough.
But I really will pile on you next time you say anything political, or even about employment laws, issues or skills.

And if you think manifestos are dull wait unitl i'm finished my spiel.
(thediscokingpin, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 14:07, archived)