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I'm just wondering, because I love my apple products, and I dont' feel fucked over by them. Sure, they're expensive, but they hold their value well. A high end Merc is also expensive, might not go faster than a porche, but they do other things better.

I can honestly say, Mac products have changed my life, in the respect that I work on them and use them for more hours of the day than not... and it makes things easier for me.
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:01, archived)
The more they build up their small world of aspirational products
the more it restricts other technologies, and makes the masses pay through the nose for nothing. Keeping up with the ludicrous stuff they do with their iPhones, it's just horrible. Sure you can put your app in our app store, but you must give us 30% of all your take on it, and it must be no more expensive than anywhere else, and you must not give your users any simple way to get the content from somewhere else... ugh cunts.

As far as all the iPad shit though, I heard an interesting soundbite in that there is currently NO market for tablets, only a market for iPads. Whilst some people will look at an Android or WinPho7 phone there is no one looking at other tablets. Not because they're not as good or anything, just because no one *needs* one at all, so you've only got the iFactor to make you want one. Mind control is aces.

they also heavily over promote device specific content. WTF should there be an app for anything? Again it just creates silos to lock users away. Hopefully HTML5 will address it but until then whilst a flash page would suffice for most apps, they have to pick either android or iphone and then get on with it, and whilst android has a larger market share, the apps still appear on iPhone as that's what's seen to matter.

BUT... iPhones do have a nasty habit of "just working". My Galaxy S is definitely a better bit of kit than an iPhone, but it does kinda need fiddling with to get the most out of it. I'm sure there's a decent paedo joke there, but I'm far too respectable for that.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:05, archived)
tl;dr

(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:11, archived)
^ this

(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:12, archived)
i've clicked i like it tho because it is a lot of words

(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:14, archived)
watch it, this is how the bible started

(I helped save b3ta! vladimir, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:15, archived)
If you read my reply
you'll see me starting to recite the phone book for a while.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:23, archived)
SORRY - AUTOMATED POST ACCOUNT HAS GONE INTO SLEEP MODE

(I helped save b3ta! vladimir, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:29, archived)
The 70/30 split is fair enough, it costs money to host the programs and create the archtecture.
Retail shops have like a 50-100% markup. I'm not sure what technologies you think they've restricted without valid technical reason. They make good products, I 'd say that Blackberry is far worst at creating unvalid fan-lust, they create corporate products yet sponsor T4/MTV etc. Getting content is very open for developers, they libaries for XML/RSS feeds are all there. Their limitations in respect to the App Store (not Mac App Store) allows for security and ease.

iPad is fantastic, it _is_ a new market, but a valid one. You can't stand up on the tube, for example, on a laptop. I use mine all the time. There are alternatives, but in pretty much every tech compairson I've seen in the media, the iPad eaither wins or is on top.

They're slow to release what some call standard features, such as copy'n'paste and notifications, but they do them right. Did WinMo7 come with C&P?
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:13, archived)
bollocks is it fair enough!
an app provides content from a third party. They paid to develop the app, and very very rightly pay royalties to the content provider, a magazine publisher or whatever. Content cost money, so you're possibly paying them 70% of your revenue in the first place, so apple then just take the rest, and you're left with... NOTHING. absolutely fucking nothing.

And you can't just NOT have an iPhone app... how gay does that make you look? You can't compete without an iPhone app... and you cna't compete with no viable revenue stream.

As for WinPho7 I know very little about it, and while Nokia are slowly fading away (See the N9 runs Meego???!?!?! WTF?!??!) I doubt I'll need to.

It's been fun listening to Buzz Out Loud and seeing how the Apple iCould stuff works out, turning out to just be a tin pot file sync service and nothing couldy in the slightest. Yet compared to Google & Amazon it'll probably still be heralded as not utter shit as no one else will be aware of the alternatives. Oh, sounds familiar!
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:16, archived)
The app store costs a lot of money to run, not saying it isn't profitable, but it still costs to run.
It also handles a lot of things that smaller developers couldn't handle such as credit card stuff securly. They have created a whole new ethos of application revinue; sale them cheap and sale them lots. There are plenty of apps that create huge profits for their companies.
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:23, archived)
There are plenty sure
but plenty that just instantly go out of business.

Stuff costs money. I know. 5% sounds fair. 10% maybe.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:26, archived)
They just have to budget it into their buisness plan, in the same way a physical product has an RRP and Wholesale.
Yeah', sure, it's quite a sizable cut, but the amount of reach it gets is soo much greater that it makes it financially worth while.
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:32, archived)
pfft
their business plan for every other outlet of their stuff has to be underpinned by apple?? If they could increase the iPhone app price to cover the additional costs then fine, but they can't without making the app / service more expensive *EVERYWHERE* W T F?
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:36, archived)
As far as RIM go
I found out last night that there are like NO podcast apps for my wifes Curve. RIM chose to disable their apparently excellent Podcasts app for non US / Canada users... wtf???? Now that's REALLY bollocks.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:19, archived)
I honestly can't think of a reason for a home user, esspecailly young teens, to have a RIM product.
OK, I admit the PlayBook looks nice, but that's it.

There isn't a single thing they do 'the best', in my opinion. My cousin had a batmizah last year and had a giant blackberry cake.
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:25, archived)
wife swears she will get another one when her contract runs out
don't get it. it's horrible!
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:27, archived)
Yeah', about 25% of my friends go from BB to iPhone, but that remaining amount love them, and I can't work out why.
I had one sitting in a draw for the last 3 years and a girl at work broke hers last month so I gave it to her and she was estatic... but to me it felt horrible to use, even for the 15 minutes I spent getting my data off.
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:31, archived)
RIM usually do battery life pretty well, but that's because it doesn't really do anything.

(I helped save b3ta! postal ninja has Transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:29, archived)
even the 9900 that's coming out is laughable by low end smart phones.
Reverse in Motion.
(I helped save b3ta! postal ninja has Transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:32, archived)
Actually yeah', I'd give them that.

(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:35, archived)
A giant blackberry cake sounds nice.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:29, archived)
baked cheesecake
That's how to do a blackberry proud.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:36, archived)
Copy and paste skill level up.
You now have the ability to edit some of the text on your clipboard.

Your title is now C&P:TL;DR warrior.
(I helped save b3ta! postal ninja has Transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:26, archived)
The only apple product I care about is cider.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:25, archived)
I never appreciated how nice Magners is
compared to Strongbow. I didn't want to vomit or anything. Really nice.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:27, archived)
try Cornish Rattler

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:30, archived)
send me a sample
i'd be delighted to.
(I helped save b3ta! RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:37, archived)