Picking up on golddust's post down there
What I hate (well mildly anyway) is that a request for reason is now often labelled "right wing Daily Mail thinking" without any examination of context of the statement or the author.
I suspect that reason stayed where it always lived but accusations of Fascism have in many cases replaced effort.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Thu 3 Oct 2013, 18:24, 38 replies)

I've read this, thought about it and my considered response is 'fuck off, cunt'.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 18:40, closed)

You sound upset.











Online.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 18:49, closed)

Oh come on, you tell me the OP's not a cunt that should fuck off.
YOU CAN'T CAN YOU
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:55, closed)

We're all cunts who should fuck off. It's in the FAQ.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 20:52, closed)

Thank you for providing a perfect example.
Even if you didn't see what you did there.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Thu 3 Oct 2013, 20:37, closed)

Alright Moseley
The EDL meeting's that way.
(Eukanuba, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 18:59, closed)

*something about Hitler*

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:00, closed)

Now don't go getting all sensible on here Edjogs, cos there's some sensitive souls in the ranks.

(boarders You won't catch me with my trousers, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:02, closed)

I suspect that labelling something"Daily Fail" is lazy.
If an opinion is based upon something other than the truth then the untruths ought to be pointed out.
There are a lot of liberal simpletons out there branding everything they feel is a little controversial "right wing" (whatever the fuck they think that means).
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:24, closed)

^
This
(boarders You won't catch me with my trousers, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:25, closed)

yes. this
I find the more I learn of welfare politics the more confused my political position becomes

1) people who lose their jobs shouldnt be penalised for it or left to starve
2) people who are unwilling to work but perfectly able shouldnt be supported by taxpayers
3) people who dont work shouldnt do better than those who do work
4) people shouldnt be punished for poverty or long-term illness

If I could square all these opinions I'd try and do it, but I can't.
A benefits system requires an ethos among its users. I think thats the problem
(Carpe Cyprinidae, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:32, closed)

Or you accept that no system is perfect, and attempt to minimise abuse whilst doing your utmost to ensure that you don't penalise people for, say, being born.
The current government don't seem to understand this, and so come off as a bunch of Gollums, frantically trying to stop anyone getting their hands on the precious.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:37, closed)

there's even a special name for them: social justice warriors

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 21:51, closed)

See ... you've put 'daily mail' and 'thinking' in the same phrase there
which rather undermines whatever point your little daily mail brain stem thought it was making.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:29, closed)

Another perfect example, thank you.

( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Thu 3 Oct 2013, 20:41, closed)

you've somewhat undermined your sanctimony and smugness by not even getting a straightforward joke

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 22:08, closed)

Oh I got it all right but with jokes as bad as that it needs
the author to point out that it was meant to be humorous.
I assume you must be used to this duty by now.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Fri 4 Oct 2013, 17:39, closed)

hahahahayeah I get jokes made at my expense but pretend to be a bit dim because something hahaha yeah

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Sat 5 Oct 2013, 8:52, closed)

Come back when you can put a sentence together.
Or when you're awarded one.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Sat 5 Oct 2013, 18:42, closed)

no

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 7 Oct 2013, 11:03, closed)

You're not wrong, but it does go both ways.
There are just as many people who will outright dismiss anything they disagree with as 'loony-lefty bleeding-heart liberalism' without any examination of context of the statement or the author.

It's essentially nothing more than a lazy get-out clause for those who don't have the skills to argue their case properly. "I don't have to listen to you, you're one of those stupid people!"
(Spectacular Biscuits, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:43, closed)

I agree.
And of course my point doesn't just apply to anti right wingers. It's the whole spectrum of people who think that insulting someone is a valid argument against that person's view. Excellent examples already in this thread.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Thu 3 Oct 2013, 20:46, closed)

Oh yeah?
Well you're a stinky pooface and my dad could beat yours in a fight.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 23:13, closed)

my dads got a bigger car than yours though

(andythepieman Is surfing the waves of indifference on, Wed 9 Oct 2013, 16:26, closed)

Extreme left wingers are as fucking stupid and reactionary as their opposites.
In other news, sky blue, water wet, world turning.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:44, closed)

Tsk. The sky is green.
They just want you to think it's blue.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:56, closed)

You're mum is green.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 19:58, closed)

I'm not going to dig her up to check,
so I'll defer to your experience.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 20:07, closed)

the thing is, daily mail reader type people are rather predictible in their opinions
opinions that just happen to mirror the ones given by their billionaire owner in the paper everyday that the poor, and not billionaire media cunts like Lord Rothmere who don't pay any tax, are at the root of britain's problems.
That generalisations like "daily fail" are a useful shorthand that saves you from having to listen to their regurgitated blather once again.
But I'm sure you have interesting and unique opinions that are in no way predictibly similar to every other bitter daily mail reading fuckwit, edjogs, that I sadly won't get to listen to because of my lazy yet accurate characterisation of your views
( cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 1:18, closed)

Typical Yoghurt-weaver do good liberal.
You probably read the guardian or the independent and don't think mooslims and single-mothers and dole-scum have ruined everything for hard working white Britons.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 7:51, closed)

It is the AIDS from the us gayers what dun it.

( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 7:57, closed)

The Fail hasn't blamed queers for ages.
It must be your turn after Islam and Miley Cyrus.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 8:27, closed)

It'll only be a matter of time
Just wait for the inevitable tenuous link between semen and bowel cancer to appear.
( Muns, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 11:34, closed)

#bbbh

( d.r._and_quinch when will you be famous?, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 17:30, closed)

Exactly. It's only (insert your chosen brand of reading material here) readers who are open-minded freethinkers.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 7:56, closed)

Razzle

( cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 12:41, closed)

Cbeebies magazine.
Said for truth.
( Muns, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 13:08, closed)

Dog Fingerers monthly

(andythepieman Is surfing the waves of indifference on, Wed 9 Oct 2013, 16:28, closed)