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# just read that, fantastic fun and games
except when you realise that they are using the abuse of children as a tool to further their fight against peoples beliefs, and the kids involved will probably have their names dragged through the courts again and blah blah blah blah
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:22, archived)
# ^this^
I knew Dawkins to be a bit of a berk, but his jumping on the child abuse for HIS cause is sleazy.
(I helped save b3ta! The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:24, archived)
# Th£ God D£lu$ion
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:26, archived)
# As someone pointed out on links only today that he used to do some good scientific talks and use that to back up his arguments.
in a clever and engaging ways....

I increasingly expect to see him anyday now kicking the walking sticks away, of old ladies going to church while shouting "you ignorant fools!" He just seems to be getting "bullish" which I feel takes the dignity of his argument away.
(I helped save b3ta! The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:30, archived)
# hahahahaha, that would be brilliant, like a character on Trigger Happy TV
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:31, archived)
# For a while I thought that, saying to friends "im a total atheist, but I'm not a fan of Dawkins really"
Then I actually read two of his books, watched any of his documentaries I could get my hands on. Now I think the bloke has incredible patience when it comes to religious types, and is actually very understated, especialy when you consider what he's up against. You wouldn't find some one who conducts them selves as well as Dawkins does in political discourse.
(I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:39, archived)
# ^Sorta this^
It's very easy for the modern enlightened individual to be "Dawkins agnostic" and call him a smug, belligerent extremist at dinner parties whilst pretending this is an opinion they came up with all by themselves. In truth he usually isn't as anything like as smug, aggressive or as extreme as we're often told. It's the classic desire for a polarised debate with black and white distinctions that makes these narratives so prevalent. Just as most religious figures aren't as unreasonable as they sometimes appear -often they're just surprised to be asked to defend their beliefs and thus fluff their arguments up in the process.

Dawkins ain't an atheist extremist, though he has tendency to tar groups with broad strokes -which is understandable given the broad spectrum of loons and crackpots that have done their best to show the very worse of religion, every day, in his email in-box.
(Metalfish Hasn't had a sig since, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:14, archived)
# Well put!
i do like this cartooon ;) www.thegoodatheist.net/images/fundyatheist.jpg
(I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:33, archived)
# I think I might make a "Worshippers of the Blessed Saint Dawkins" badge :)
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:16, archived)
# I like the "God loves Dawkins" T-Shirt suggestion :)
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:30, archived)
# Stop wilfully misunderstanding me, dammit!
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:51, archived)
# I saw him this week, walking along Shaftsbury Avenue. Then I saw Clare Short on Regent Street. Weird day.
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:29, archived)
# Also
I'd like to see him try it.
(I helped save b3ta! An Egg ,D, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:38, archived)
# If he wouldn't let Santa near him, then his body guards won't let Dawkins in

(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:39, archived)
# :)
(I helped save b3ta! An Egg ,D, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:44, archived)
# Get 'im Santy!! :D
(I helped save b3ta! Rico, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:47, archived)
# hahahaha
(Rattlehead all time with the gay, forever touching, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 17:48, archived)
# yeah completely true
i personally don't follow a religion, but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. But anyone involved in the cover-up of children being abused should be arrested.
(I helped save b3ta! FIEND, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:40, archived)
# The kids won't have their names dragged through the courts again, as the case will never come to court.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:40, archived)
# You think if the head of Banardos did a similar cover up,
or a large international aid agency? Or any other organisation that they wouldn't be taken to court?

Just because so many people believe in a sky wizard and 2000 year old Israeli zombie and a few blokes in dresses decided that this particular man in a dress represents said zombie and sky wizard on earth that hes automatically immune from prosecution?
(I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:50, archived)
# He's also a head of state.
(I helped save b3ta! An Egg ,D, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:53, archived)
# Which isn't recognised by the UN
Seriusly wouldn't you just love to see the guy locked up, and a triumphant Dawkins stood on the steps of the Old Bailey shouting "where's your god now biatches!"

edit actulay, I wouldnt like to see that last bit
(I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 15:56, archived)
# :D
Apparently the pope's coming to Glasgow. I'd love to go and throw eggs at him, but people might think I'm a rangers supporter. What a dilemma.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:13, archived)
# Ha I know
Its like when the Orange Order said they would protest the Pope's visit, I thought to my self..hmmm I don't like the idea of agreeing with the orange Order
(I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:20, archived)
# Mmmmmm
I don't like the pope and I don't like the orange order. But which one's worse?

FIGHT... hang on a second, they already tried that.
(I helped save b3ta! Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:38, archived)
# Haha, propper lols!
(I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:51, archived)
# "zombie & sky wizard" LOLZ
:D
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:04, archived)
# The pope won't end up in court because he's the head of state of a foreign country, and will remain so until death.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:07, archived)
# As said previously, is isn't considered a state by the UN
Therefore, the pope cannot be a head of state.

Sadly, he won't be put on trial simply because he's the pope.
Where the justice in that is, I don't know.
I'm also a bit dismayed by the number of folks saying it'd be better to just brush it all under the carpet because it'll be too upsetting for the victims.

/mild rant.
(I helped save b3ta! chulk607, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 3:29, archived)
# I think you'll find
Sky Pixie is the correct nomenclature.
(I helped save b3ta! Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Sun 11 Apr 2010, 16:37, archived)