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# you can explain it all you like
my brain just rejects it.
seriously, this stuff just makes me short-circuit.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:40, archived)
# It's a state of mind.
Try meditation.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:43, archived)
# I view it as a language
A really simple language that's more like lumping coloured bits of lego into different holes. Well, that's how I view algebra, anyway. Calculus is like adding a few tenses to the language, or perhaps those funny lego pieces that you've got to be careful with. Group theory is like that lego piece you always lost on the floor and then trod on with bare feet.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:45, archived)
# Group theory is like snowflakes!
I think it's badly taught. Not wanting to be overly critical of maths teachers because they've got a tough job. All of the concepts are really fairly simple, but there's this weird sense of prejudice that makes everyone convinced that they're not, and it's quite difficult to force your way through that.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:54, archived)
# I wish I had been taught group theory at school, it's quite nice really.
Took until this year for me to learn about it.

Then again, I saw a book in foyles the other day about representation theory, which looks like madness.
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:03, archived)
# hmm
i was taught group theory at:

* a level (advanced maths, the gcse cut out as much maths from the maths a level as possible) -- understood it, no problems

* 1st year uni -- understood it, no problems

* 2nd year uni -- understood it, no problems

* didn't do it in 3rd year uni though it edges into other subjects, all of which i understood, no problems

* 4th year uni -- fucking rubbish lecturer who i hated and who disliked me, taught me the theory of lie groups and applications to particle physics and he can FUCK OFF AND DIE GRAAAARGHGODIFUCKINGHATEDTHATFUCKINGCUNT HEFUCKEDUPGROUPTHEORYFORME

i think you may have a point :D


edit: that was actually to mgt but it almost makes sense here :)
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 20:14, archived)
# i don't think that would work
i'm far too good at making myself ridiculously tense
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:52, archived)
# Well do a bit of tensor analysis first, then.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:54, archived)
# i don't think i'll bother
i'm fine with the basics and far from innumerate, that's enough for me :D
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:00, archived)
# but without tensor calculus you can't understand general relativity :(
and general relativity is the cleanest, most beautiful theory mankind has ever posited bar NONE.

i'd back up this statement but it would probably involve arguments that some would disagree with and everyone else would ignore. so i won't. BUT I'M RIGHT.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 20:19, archived)
# Or use the relaxation matrix
nmr.cit.nih.gov/xplor-nih/xplorMan/node491.html
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:00, archived)
# i wish i wasn't blonde :(
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:09, archived)
# A lobotomoy would fix that.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 18:58, archived)
# truly scary
my brain is the one part of me that works properly, i'm terrified of anything happening to it!
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:08, archived)
# The lobotomy would fix that too.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:16, archived)
# you just want me to have a lobotomy
why, Mu, why?
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:18, archived)
# I have an ice pick I want to christen.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:25, archived)
# find some ice
and pick it
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:34, archived)
# My body works great, but my brain is broken. A mad scientist could make one healthy person out of us.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:35, archived)
# i'm not mad
i just get these headaches...
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Apr 2010, 19:47, archived)