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# Middle-aged men in baseball caps should all have a long hard look in the mirror
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:33, archived)
# ......runs to mirror
(I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:34, archived)
# As fashion critic for middle-aged men,
what do you recommend?
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:37, archived)
# sou'wester
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:43, archived)
# rain or shine, eh?
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:46, archived)
# I love how everybody here gets all middle-class and Daily Mail when it comes to Bob Crow
"How frightfully rude of that oikish man to dare to ask for some rights for the tube workers doesn't he realise I'm missing my devon cream tea at Chelsea markets!"
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:42, archived)
# eh?
I said 'middle-aged' not 'working-class'. Not living in London, I couldnt give a fuck if the tube's running or not.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:46, archived)
# well you should
It's costing the economy £194 trillion pounds an hour.

And that affects YOU
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:52, archived)
# I thought it was £194 trillion a second?
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:52, archived)
# Well, that's inflation for you
I personaly cost the economy $600 qazillion by walking for a bit this morning
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:55, archived)
#
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(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:00, archived)
# that was just a small deposit
*runs*
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:04, archived)
# quazinlion
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:09, archived)
# Damn you and your fitness regime!
You should be ashamed of yourself.
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:00, archived)
# Bargain!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:19, archived)
# Yeah I know you said middle-aged!
It's all the attitude of b3ta towards Bob Crow as it focusses mainly on him being, well, an average Working-Class bloke who outspoken and of course we all know that the lower-classes should be not seen, nor heard, and know full well they should be busy doing "working stuff" behind the scenes and not upsetting the apple-cart, how very dare they! Kinda of sticks in my throat as one of those "working-class" types. I guess everybody would stfu about Bob Crow if he wore a suit and constantly sold his workers out for an easy deal where the management constantly exploit the workers. "Well as long at the Trains run on time!"
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:52, archived)
# Nice one mrs :P
I don't really know a lot about this subject but decided to congratulate you nonetheless.
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:54, archived)
# "Well as long at the Trains run on time!"
he does look a bit like Mussolini...

and ^this^ obviously
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:54, archived)
# It's not about him being working class.
It's about him being a chippy twat.

He's the "class" equivalent of Ali G: "Is it 'cos I is working class?"
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:56, archived)
# What the hell is "chippy twat" suppose to mean
surely that's just your interpretation. I don't see him as "Is it 'cos I is working class?" so I suppose you will now be seeing me as a female Ali G doing the same here? The Middle-Classes can be so ignorant and insulting at times! Don;t get me wrong I'm not his biggest fan, I'm not a fan of Arthur Scargill either and I've met him personally and the only thing he said to me was "Hey you don't take a photograph of me whilst I'm eating my fish and chips! You're not my personal photographer!" Ofc my photo would have been a very nice pubilicity shot of him being amongst the workers eating fish and chips, but hey he wanted to be a fucking tart about it!
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:00, archived)
# A chippy twat is someone with a chip on their shoulder.
In Crow's case, it's about being working class, and, as he perceives, therefore by default exploited, and due a better deal - for some reason - than the rest of us.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:04, archived)
# Wouldn't you have a chip
if you were told your friends are going to lose their jobs because a bunch of faceless suits in an office are pissing away millions of pounds on bonuses and contracts to people who can't tell their arse from their elbow?
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:06, archived)
# Yes. It's happened to me before and I've no doubt it will happen again.
Suits is suits, management is management - it's not about class.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:09, archived)
# It's always about class! That's why suits are suits and management are management!
They tell us we live in a classless society and yet we can see the chasm of poverty everyday! If they told you you live in a gravityless society would you float to work on cloud9?
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:12, archived)
# Bollocks.
I'm middle class, and I'm on the bottom rung of the company. My boss is working class. I have a toff friend who's on the dole. Gone completely are the days of buying your colours and position.

I won't deny nepotism still exists, but that's who you know, not what class you are.

If you have to work, you're working class.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:16, archived)
# Of course if you have to work you're working-class, but you say you're middle-class!
It's not so much what you do but how you view yourself. And your empirical example is far from being the 'norm' especially as you say your boss is working-class how do you derive that especially in the context you are saying we live in a "classless" society? It's you who's drawing up the distinctions not me. Maybe this all stems from the fact you resent the idea of having a working-class boss?
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:22, archived)
# Indeed. Which proves my point that it's not about class.
Basically I'm working class as I have to work. However, the likes of Mr Crow will have a pop at me because I'm public school educated, and my parents are a doctor and a teacher.

My boss, however, is the son of a plumber.

Having a crack at me because I am a twat is absolutely fine and dandy. Because of what class I am or how much I earn? Not really.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:25, archived)
# No you don't get the point, and once again you project your prejudice upon what you think Bob Crow would think of you!
It really doesn't matter if you were Public School educated or even if you were born with a silver spoon up your arse.

What matters is not allowing the disintergration of what is the "Working Class" into a tasteless soup of Classlessness! (is there such a word?) This whole idea we should all aspire to be Middle-Class is nonesense and self-destructing. No economy is based upon the Intelligentsia, it is always grounded very firmly in the Working-Class who provide the Services and Manufactor the Goods that we need to run an economy.

This whole Classless Society thing is merely to blind us to that fact and divide the workers and put them against each other rather than uniting to form strong unions to prevent the exploitation of wages and conditions.

Well that's enough from me, and yes I'm one of those Red Militant sorts if you want to know, or haven't guessed. I'm not dragging this out any further.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:34, archived)
# I don't agree - indeed, I think you're utterly wrong, but we're taking up valuable drinking space.
I am more than happy to continue this by gaz, though.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:37, archived)
# I don't think this will be resolved by going over it any more.
You know my position now and I have a good idea of yours. Like you say this is just taking up good drinking time, if I was allowed to drink and drive that is ;)
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:41, archived)
# I always wondered how you managed to b3ta and drive a bus at the same time
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 12:09, archived)
# haha I could always buy one of those steering wheel holders for iPad as seen on /links a while back ;)
www.steering-wheel-ipad.com/

I'm sure that would be entirely within H&S regulations ;)
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 12:16, archived)
# In the words of Shakespeare
"You have got to be fucking kidding me ... !"
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 12:18, archived)
# I love the way he says "it's like having a heads-up display"
except that you're staring at the fucking steering wheel and not the road you dick!
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 12:27, archived)
# I'm sorry but that's a very distorted view.
In context what you are doing is projecting your own negativity upon what he says and therefore he will always be to you a "chippy twat!"

It's not a case of "I'm working-class and therefore exploited!" it's a case of working-class people without strong union leadership will get exploited very quickly. And by strong union leadership I don;t mean the current crop of knobheads at the top of the Union bureaucracies.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:09, archived)
# Well it's how I perceive him.
It's opinionslol, innit. I understand the union thing, but Crow is an unnecessarily militant tosser, and the way I see it, always brings class into it as if it's something.

/there I go bringing class into it again
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:11, archived)
# See me after class.
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:13, archived)
# *boffs all of the above with croquet mallet*
(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:14, archived)
# Anyone for brunch?
I have some smashing items on the trolley this morning.
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:18, archived)
# *SPANG*
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:18, archived)
# Who is this Bob Crow, anyway?
My servants haven't brought my papers through to the conservatory yet, I must have missed the story.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:26, archived)
# I'm sorry about this
I should have stayed in bed.
(I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 10:56, archived)
# No it's not so much about your image as the perception of Bob Crow
as an individual I don't know enough about him to make a judgement, which is the case for most people - yet they just love to explain how he's a this and a that and how much they hate him and that's just because at the end of the day he's an outspoken union-leader who hasn't had his wings clipped by the bureaucracies.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:17, archived)
# Like, baseball players you mean?
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:21, archived)
# especially them
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:23, archived)
# I'll spread the word.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:27, archived)
# I think people should have to write their jobs on their hats
Like in those old cartoons where journalists and photographers would wear hats with "press" written on a tag tucked into the ribbon.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 3 Nov 2010, 11:51, archived)