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# If things continue the way that they are going; I can see Macs taking over from PCs over the next 10 years.
Apple hardware is everywhere and as most PCs have M$ sh*t smeared all over them from the get-go, people will start leaning toward the former as first choice for purchase.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 14:57, archived)
# Google could easily be market leader within 10 years
I would say they were a more familiar brand to most people and their chromebooks are out any day now.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 14:58, archived)
# I think the whole "cloud" thing is ultimately doomed.
Would you trust your work 100% to an external location?
F**k that.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:00, archived)
# It's just a fad, you know, all the cool kids are doing it.
I agree, although for non-important/work stuff it's good, especially for all those with tablets with only 16/32gb.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:03, archived)
# One huge issue is that big businesses in the US mainly use PCs
and the costs of retraining staff and replacing software is prohibitive. Inertia is a powerful thing.

Ah, posted this in the wrong place.
Cloud computing is another thing altogether. I think the real issue with that is that you'll lose control of almost every part of your work process, from the software you use to the availablilty of your resources. I'm too paranoid to feel comfortable with that.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:04, archived)
# Why would you put 100% of your work in one place?
All google stuff can be saved locally/backed up to disks if you want
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:05, archived)
# It's not just about files...
the "vision" is that your workstation will just be a terminal... even the software you use will be in the cloud, and you'll pay for access per session. It's about control of resources.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:07, archived)
# Oh fuck, does catnippp know about this?
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:09, archived)
# Go ahead and laugh.
That's exactly what the lizards want you to do.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:15, archived)
# I like a certain aspect of that
especially as Google make more and more stupidly expensive things obsolete for the average user (like MSOffice)

If I could avoid the overpriced subscriptions that I am forced to pay for Autodesk products, or have a pay as you go version I'd be quite happy.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:14, archived)
# Hahah MSOffice is obsolete?
Try handing an non-Office text or spreadsheet file to a business client over here.

Also, it simply is not credible that prices would go down if software was in the cloud. You'd be in a position where your progress on a task could be effectively held to ransom because you don't own the means of production (there, I said it). It's naive to think that companies would not take full advantage of that position.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:22, archived)
# well it's made my life easier
instant conversion of stupid docx files and all that sort of thing.
Plus obviously being able to get on with work even if I'm working in a strange office on someone else's computer without having to try and convince the IT twat that a portable hard drive isn't a security risk. lovely stuff :)
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:32, archived)
# Trust me, I'm not advocating for MicroSoft or their fucking horrible products.
The reality of my situation though is that everyone I deal with uses MS, so I have to.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:34, archived)
# Gah!
They said the internet was just a fad and will disappear soon enough.

Just think, I loves my dropbox I do. That's the first step!
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:37, archived)
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(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:02, archived)
# A few years back, the ipod appeared.
Then the iphone and now the ipad. Apple is asserting itself and becoming more and more prominent.
M$ leads NOW, no argument, but will they in the future?
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:08, archived)
# In terms of desktops
I think they'll continue to dominate for many years to come. They're so thoroughly entrenched, particularly in businesses.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:09, archived)
# I agree
Unless you have a specific app that uses a Mac, the Windows PC will stay dominant. You don't see Mac servers and the like on the market in the same way you see MS ones. If they have Windows servers, they'll stick with windows PCs and the multitude of existing software for them.

Then there is gaming...
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:39, archived)
# There are reasons why a lot will not go to Apple
Take their approach to apps. If they don't want you to install it, you can't. And when people tried to jailbreak their phones to install non-Apple approved apps, they were attacked by Apple lawyers. Its your device, but they won't let you do what you want with it.

Support wise is terrible too. They ended support for iPhone 3 less than two years after they stopped selling it. Most mobile contracts are 2 years these days. So people are stuck with phones that Apple refused to protect from ongoing mallware threats.

And as for viruses...
(, Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:25, archived)
# So what's your take on Macs then?
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:06, archived)
# I've used them for over a decade for doing music production and photography capture (massive files)
The good thing about them is they are super stable and when everynow and again an application goes a bit pear shaped it holds its hands up right away rather than doing the MS 'no, no, everything's fine, honest no really, nothing wrong here' ... However, when it comes to ipods/pads/phones they can go and fuck themselves...
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:12, archived)
# I have no problem with that at all
I have an old generation iPod and I just use it as that. But I don't mind when people criticise Apple for that kind of stuff.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:15, archived)
# When my Macbook broke (they did fix it for free when it was out of warranty) and I went to one of their shops........
Fuck me...it's frightening.... borderline Scientology convention...
shudder..
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:18, archived)
# It's the cult of the mac
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:20, archived)
# hands up right away?
(, Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:28, archived)
# apple mac - great for graphic design
apple anything else - utter shit with a short life span.

pc - don't have any problems apart from updating graphics cards every few years
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:26, archived)
# Damn right about graphics cards
particularly for fussy gamers like me.
(, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 15:37, archived)