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# Actually, no, surprisingly
though in my early 20s I did go through a fairly typical period of strong anti-Christianity and went around the internet trying to convince hardline creationists that actually those of us studying cosmology *did* know more about it than them. I gave up when I found you just don't get anywhere talking with these idiots.

But I didn't seem to have a sudden, infuriating enlightenment. I just seemed to have a gentle slide into amused disbelief when I went through the Bible properly, reading it word for word. If more people did that we'd have fewer 'Christians' in the world.
(, Mon 16 Jul 2012, 20:43, archived)
# absolutely, or at least I assume so
I probably had 7 years of subliminal "religious education" (quotation marks because it wasn't it was Christian brainwashing) but at no point recall reading from an actual bible.
(, Mon 16 Jul 2012, 20:49, archived)
# I don't recall a single Bible being used at primary school
We were given Gideon's copies of the Gospels in an Assembly once but it wasn't even by the school and I don't know if the headteacher appreciated it. I also firmly believe that next to no Christians read the Bible - at best, they read the Gospels, which are a tiny fragment of the entire book - and pretend they've read the Epistles, but evidently haven't since they argue that Christianity is not anti-gay (it is; or at least it is if we're being told that Paul was divinely inspired) or anti-woman (it is; same reasons). And even those who have read the Epistles and somehow reconciled them with not being a total cunt argue that the Old Testament is irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant? If it's irrelevant, why is it two thirds of the Bible? And where in the OT does it ever say that the "Law" can be "fulfilled", and what the fuck does it mean to "fulfill" a Law in the first place? Christ openly contradicts himself when he talks about the Law, both saying it will never be overturned "until the Kingdom is come" (which it clearly isn't), and also saying that it's not important because only Christ is important. Because that doesn't sound big-headed.

Pah. PAH.
(, Mon 16 Jul 2012, 21:02, archived)
# I agree with pretty much all of this
Particularly: "I gave up when I found you just don't get anywhere talking with these idiots."

Although I quite like it when Jehovah's Witnesses turn up, if I'm in a good mood sometimes I just chat to them, doing my best to keep the conversation light-hearted, which isn't that difficult really.

When some friends and myself read through a bit of Genesis (we wanted to write a parody: The Bad News Bible...probably bindun) we couldn't stop laughing, it just didn't make sense.

(, Mon 16 Jul 2012, 21:08, archived)
# Should've carried on into Leviticus and Deuteronomy
Then you, too, could find a law that should still govern every Christian nation: if someone digs a hole and someone else's donkey falls into it, the first man should pay the second for a donkey. Also, don't fuck your mum. Or your sister. Or your cousin. But if your brother dies, God commands you to fuck your sister-in-law. And if someone's raped in a city, kill her, she should have shouted for help.

You might have fun going to the Skeptics Annotated Bible and meandering through the Absurdities section. There's some pretty absurd things in the Bible. One I quite like is somewhere there - a believer can drink poison without being poisoned. Next time someone's really irritating you, challenge them to drink arsenic. The Bible says they'll be fine!
(, Mon 16 Jul 2012, 21:12, archived)
# I think I've figured out my next holiday reading material
Cheers :D
(, Mon 16 Jul 2012, 22:45, archived)