A candelabra is you!It all looks like the end of a spectacularly unsuccessful scouting trip.
Serious question, does anyone think there's any realistic chance of another referendum with a 'stay' option on it? Is that even being talked about?
(Serious question, does anyone think there's any realistic chance of another referendum with a 'stay' option on it? Is that even being talked about?
mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 0:44,
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Depends if the EU grant an extension.If not there's just no time, the choice is basically limited to leave with no deal in 10 days, or revoke article 50..
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Barbarossa is not my real name,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 1:31,
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Caaaaannnnnndleeeeeeeeeesssssssss
Now, off to bed you two. Big day tomorrow.
(Now, off to bed you two. Big day tomorrow.
unclepills Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think.,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 3:19,
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Ursula Andress's birthday party. You not get the invite?
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Tue 19 Mar 2019, 15:48,
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Yes it's been talked about regularly over the past few yearsDoesn't seem that likely at the moment. No Brexiteer MPs are going to vote for it and while there's a majority in Parliament for Remain, enough of them are worried about the backlash of "ignoring" the referendum result and "betraying" people who voted Leave that they're unlikely to go for it. There's also nothing like a majority consensus in terms of what question to ask: whether that's "Accept May's deal" or "Remain", "Accept May's deal" or "Leave with no deal", or something else. More than two options would almost certainly result in a deadlock.
One other option would be a General Election, with the Tories backing Leave and Labour Remain. Given that there's something of a constitutional crisis at the moment that's not impossible, and has the big benefit of delivering a mandate even better than the original referendum, without as much baggage as simply trying to vote again. Sadly that's highly unlikely because the Tories are split and it would pose an existential threat. The whole of Brexit has always been about trying to get the Tories to unify around a single position on Europe - destroying the rest of the country is just an accidental by-product.
(One other option would be a General Election, with the Tories backing Leave and Labour Remain. Given that there's something of a constitutional crisis at the moment that's not impossible, and has the big benefit of delivering a mandate even better than the original referendum, without as much baggage as simply trying to vote again. Sadly that's highly unlikely because the Tories are split and it would pose an existential threat. The whole of Brexit has always been about trying to get the Tories to unify around a single position on Europe - destroying the rest of the country is just an accidental by-product.
Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 8:16,
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I think that there's a lot that's right about this response;but the idea that a GE would be Tory leavers vs Labour remainers is pie-in-the-sky. Labour isn't suddenly going to become a remain party: they're just as bewitched by Brexit as the Tories.
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Tue 19 Mar 2019, 8:51,
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Fair comment
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Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout,
Wed 20 Mar 2019, 17:21,
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Any 2nd ref would have to have 3 options and a single transferable voteRemoan, Mays deal, Leeeaave.
If a persons first choice is the least favoured option (say remoan) then all votes for remoan go to the voters 2nd choice. Then we Leeeaave :)
(If a persons first choice is the least favoured option (say remoan) then all votes for remoan go to the voters 2nd choice. Then we Leeeaave :)
CanonCaliber A big bore,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 9:11,
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There are talks about swapping the entire populations of the UK and Poland mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 18:53,
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hahaha loads of essex lads in the middle of poland yelling at each other to fuck off back where they came from mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Tue 19 Mar 2019, 21:36,
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let's be realisticNo vote against the EU is ever upheld. MPs and Brussels will find a way to keep us in and then that's when we all realise our votes count for fuck all.
My guess would be it comes down to revoke or a very long extension, which would give time for a rigged referendum so that remain wins. Parliament sure as hell isn't going to to give us the opportunity to get it wrong again.
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Thu 21 Mar 2019, 7:52,
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My guess would be it comes down to revoke or a very long extension, which would give time for a rigged referendum so that remain wins. Parliament sure as hell isn't going to to give us the opportunity to get it wrong again.