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# but its being distributed by disney, n'est pas?
well maybe i will have to go see it anyway. is there any violence?
(I helped save b3ta! Or is it?, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:54, archived)
# Finding Nemo
is amazing :)
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:55, archived)
# so is POTC
yarrr!
(I helped save b3ta! PMGT -Bacon., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:56, archived)
# I saw both of those on Saturday night
in the space of 5 hours :)
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:58, archived)
# not seen that
saying that, the last time i went to the cinema was to watch Austin Powers...
(vork and burlap, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:58, archived)
# go see it now, its superb.
we sat in the cinema in edinburgh, about 15 b3tans going "yarrrrrrr!"
(I helped save b3ta! PMGT -Bacon., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:00, archived)
# yaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!



just like that
(I helped save b3ta! Reverend Dan, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:03, archived)
# yeah.
yaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr!!!
(I helped save b3ta! PMGT -Bacon., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:06, archived)
# your all
Disney's bitches.

the iceman fucketh ye hard.
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:05, archived)
# The thing I don't like about Disney is the way they patronise the audience so much.
Everything has to be laid out so neatly for you. Nothing for you to do but sit back and watch some (predictable) pretty pictures. Essentially they have never learnt how to tell real stories with animation*

Also, they are always set in magical lands which don't have any real world familiarity. Miyazaki's stuff is set in the real world, warts and all, with little bits of magic thrown in. In makes the characters far more solid in the stories.

* With the exception of Pixar stuff and possibly Bambi.
(I helped save b3ta! Hagbard ... it's been a long time., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:08, archived)
# it's phenomenal
you have to see it sometime.
(I helped save b3ta! dipdapdop, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:57, archived)
# but is there violence!?!?
if there is violence, i can justify it much more easily
(I helped save b3ta! Or is it?, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 1:59, archived)
# If you *want* violence then you're out of luck ...
Go rent a Mangled Video instead.
(I helped save b3ta! Hagbard ... it's been a long time., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:02, archived)
# well i'm all for well directed, etc movies.
i'm not really that big on violence, ordinarily. but i wouldn't be able to handle Kiki's delivery service no matter how well directed. i need something more which i have yet to identify. i guess a strong realism on the part of the main character, even if the situations/setting isn't realistic
ex: Cowboy Bebop. Spike is a very realistic character, even though practically everything else about the show is more
example: cowboy bebop. even though the show has a sci-fi setting, and some of the events are unrealistic, spike, and the other main characters are well grounded and believable.
(I helped save b3ta! Or is it?, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:07, archived)
# That's odd because I think Miyazaki makes some of the most realistic characters.
Kiki is just a normal girl (who happens to be a witch). She has to go off to a new town as part of her training and has to find her feet. She's at times optimistic and adventurous and at times scared and frightened.
The characters might not be as familiar to us as some genres but they are (I think) very realistic.

EDIT: I think Cowboy Beebop is great to (if you haven't got them, go get the soundtrack CDs - Yoko Kanno is fantastic).
(I helped save b3ta! Hagbard ... it's been a long time., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:16, archived)
# uh YES!
no. not really
(I helped save b3ta! dipdapdop, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:02, archived)
# Oh god no.
Hayao Miyaki has long been producing some of the greatest (animated) films of all time. They are anything from the most gentle childrens fairy tales (Totoro) to the epic stories of war and peace (Nausicaa). From islands in the sky (Laputa) to witches on broomsticks (Kiki) and flying pigs (Porco Rosso).

All of then gorgeously crafted with stories to sweep you away.

Plus, if you think Anime is all a little light-weight, go seek out "Grave of the Fireflies" (by the same Studio, but not Miyazaki himself). That one left me in tears - and I'm a heartless bastard most of the time :)
(I helped save b3ta! Hagbard ... it's been a long time., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:00, archived)
# And if they still think it's lightweight
Get the to wtach Urtosukidoji : The Legend of the Overfiend and when their eyes start to bleed, nick their wallet.
(I helped save b3ta! Cadmus has teh uplikn coeds at, Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:04, archived)
# i think ive seen that.
(I helped save b3ta! PMGT -Bacon., Tue 2 Sep 2003, 2:06, archived)