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ooh I might look at downloading WebPlus 6.0

I need to build a webshite :) ty

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:29, archived)

I'd get the demo of Dreamweaver

or something similar - you get far nicer results, and the sites work outside IE.

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cuntmuffin, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:31, archived)

ooh thanks :)

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:32, archived)

Or learn HTML

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Naive Amoeba Bored Cig, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:33, archived)

that's crazy talk :)

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:35, archived)

that would be insane!

;-)

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Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:37, archived)

Yeah, that'd be the other option.

But I swing more towards PHP nowdays anyway. I just suggest Dreamweaver because you can have a resonably nice site in a very small amount of time.

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cuntmuffin, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:37, archived)

and a lot of money :\

Bluefish on Linux is nice.. and free

.. in case anyone`s interested

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Reckless_Rik, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:48, archived)

I swing towards men..

uh uh... I mean good ol' ASP. Micro$haft owns your arses, bitch.

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Naive Amoeba Bored Cig, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:50, archived)

500 Internal Server Error

try load balancing that crud over a bunch of production servers...

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Reckless_Rik, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:53, archived)

ASP cost money though (I think)

PHP is free

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:54, archived)

IIS (or PWS) comes with Win98 upwards

but if you want to cope with loads of users, you need to buy some form of MS Site Server licence, otherwise you get "too many users" errors

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Reckless_Rik, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:57, archived)

Too geeky for me I'm afraid

most of that went straight over my head. firstly what is IIS? What does it do? How does it relate to ASP or PHP? and what's this 'too many users' error?

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 12:01, archived)

IIS is Internet Information Server, a web server that MS gives away with the OS

- have a squizz under add programs -> windows components, and it supports ASP out of the ~~box~~ CD

"too many users" is the typical error people get with MS servers as the admin can put a cap on the maximum number of requests so that the server doesn`t fall over; also if you don`t pay for a big licence, IIS is locked down to a max 25 (or something - can`t remember) simultaneous users - anything posted on b3ta would lock that up in seconds!

you can get add-ons to allow you to run PHP on IIS too, if that`s your bent (PFFFFT.. bent) although PHP and Apache are kissy snoggy bed fellows

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Reckless_Rik, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 12:07, archived)

Oh right I see

so you can be your own Internet Server running off your computer, rather than relying upon your ISP running the code for you, is that right?

But is there a danger of people having access to your computer directly?

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 12:13, archived)

yip, I run my web site from the bedroom

as for security, yep you`re right.. you have to have a good (not adequate) firewall, and a stable operating system / web server that you keep patched to the hilt!

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Reckless_Rik, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 12:17, archived)

You seem to be a right brainbox about coding and stuff

can you recommend a good quality PHP thumbnail gallery code that uses files to access the image/thumb locations rather than from a MySQL Database. I did have a working code for my php thumbnail gallery but I lost it when ny comp crashed and I can't remember how to re-code it see here for broken version It loads six rows of six thumbs using a file with the url of each thumbnail. Each thumb has the url to the actual image located in a second file, when you click either next or previous it loads the next load of urls stored in an array. Please help me if you can.

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 12:26, archived)

I did this one:

www.onlinetools.org/tools/easyimagecatalogue.php

Been a while since there was an update though

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sinisterduck, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 13:17, archived)

Dreamweaver is the dogs' whatsits

but this is aimed at those who have limited or no funds. Dreamweaver demo is okay but you have to not only learn it, but also build your site within 30 days. Unless you happen to have the crack - which I wouldn't know a thing about.

\scarpers

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:36, archived)

I knew

you were a crack whore!

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Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:38, archived)

I deny everything

I did say I didn't know a thing about it :)

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:40, archived)

Well, yeah, you could always

do THAT, but I wasn't going to mention it.

I think 30 days is enough to build a reasonable site, but yes, the other thing is free.

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cuntmuffin, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:39, archived)

30 days is enough if you already have an understanding or both

wysiwyg web-design programs and a grounding ih html. I learnt HTML long before I bought Dreamweaver.

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:44, archived)

Meh!

I dunno. I don't even use it any more, as said in an earlier reply. Twas just a suggestion.

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cuntmuffin, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:48, archived)

T'was a good suggestion

Dreamweaver is the best web-design app. going. Although it doesn't hurt to learnt a few html tags just in case.

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Mon 11 Apr 2005, 11:52, archived)