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# Last Image post of my tuesday
I went to a certian place the other day on the train... here's my ticket:

cfb

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:27, archived)
# STD?
Did you go to the VD clinic?
(I helped save b3ta! Grampa, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:28, archived)
# 114K? woo! let`s SMASH TEH INTERNET!

better to optimise thon pictures over thonder.. 50K should be ample, I say, ample
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:28, archived)
# Well..
The compression ratio in my thumbnail script is set to 50%, on top of the resize. Can you suggest a better value? (with a reminder that anything below 45% really does look crap).

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:30, archived)
# Save it as a BMP file.
(I helped save b3ta! Grampa, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:32, archived)
# haha this
or a PNG, we love those
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:33, archived)
# PNG's
are even larger for this paticular image. Sadly. I love PNG's too. :(

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:35, archived)
#
www.lemony.co.uk/optimisation.htm
(I helped save b3ta! Grampa, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:36, archived)
# That link is great
and all, but the image you see here is generated from a script that can only read/write jpeg or png. I'll give 40% a go for my next set of thumbs though.

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:39, archived)
# you geek!
NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:44, archived)
# hmm might be one of those cases when you have to go bananas and try GIF or something instead
even if it squeezes 10K off it without making it look shit

- but fair play to you, you`ve obviously had a go and know what you`re on about, so I can`t complain too much
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:38, archived)
# Spagaroony
Spagaroony
(I helped save b3ta! spagaroony, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:38, archived)
# awww
look, don't use your clever thumbnail thingie, get yourself a trial version of potatoshop or download GIMP and resize it and save it properly

that pic will look fine at about 30k, easy

PNGs are the absolute worst for optimisation (except BMPs which don't even bother trying) - only useful for the 24-bit alpha channel, meaning smooth transparent bits - and even then most browsers don't support them properly yet so no point at all really aside from importing bitmaps into flash
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:38, archived)
# What would I do with a trial of photoshop?
I've already got a full legitimate copy of CS2. :)

Anywho, I use the script because I'm rather lazy and its quick; I save the image, upload via FTP, click the link, and boom, I've got a gallery and a thumbnail in one go.

Although others are slightly right, I might try lower values for other images.

And in reply to the ninja edit you just did, PNG is ace for screenshots, or anything that can be expressed in vector format using less instructions than a JPEG would take (thats the whole idea behind PNG). If you do a screenshot on an average desktop, normally PNG is smaller than a JPEG of the same thing.


NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:44, archived)
# not if you screen shot everything at 2% JPG quality
\m/ ROCK ON!

NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:46, archived)
# fair but
when you're on a board where users often have bandwidth limits you'll get a lot of complaints about an image that's four times bigger than it needs to be

and PNG isn't a vector format, it's a bitmap format, same as JPEG, GIF, BMP, TIF and all the rest. you're also horribly wrong about the screenshot thing too, but never mind

open up that copy of CS2 and have a play saving things at different JPEG quality settings, you'll be amazed
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:49, archived)
# the chap`s made an effort, and you can`t say better than that
and he hasn`t run off in a huff like some new users on a Tuesday - NeoThermic gets a thumb up* from me and a wee "welcome to the board" type thing

*the bum

NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:50, archived)
# that's true
i'm trying not to be mean, i really am. i was a noob not so long ago, hehe

i'm a web monkey by trade though and know tons about this crap - even how the algorithms behind JPEG and GIF compression work, although christ knows why

anyway, yes, to NeoThermic, sorry if i sounded off but learn you must young padawan


NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:54, archived)
# No, no one sounded angry...
...I'm just more worried about the fact that everyone is now singing their posts as me!

Anywho, said image is now 7008 bytes. I've tweaked my auto-thumbnail script, hopefully it should generate sub-50kb thumbs.

/me cowers in a corner over all the 'NeoThermic' sigs

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 18:02, archived)
# print screen it
then paste into word
then embed in a powerpoint presentation
that should do it
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:42, archived)
# hahaha nice



NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:43, archived)
# I suppose I must be flatterd,
since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:45, archived)
# I don't think this is about flattery.

NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Grampa, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:47, archived)
# Then I should be worried.
Yes?

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:50, archived)
# he`s just grumpy because he doesn`t get the WHOOP WHOOP cos he`s a daddy now


*runs like fuck*

NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:53, archived)
# It's true.
Run like fuck, or I'll get some off you.

(:

NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Grampa, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:54, archived)
# Probably
Unless you have (non-man) tits it's most likely not flattery

NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! abandonnship, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:53, archived)
# If anyone still has dialup they should have all of their technology taken away
(Willboy:, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:31, archived)
# Using dialup after being on broadband is like moving to a house with no indoor plumbing.
(I helped save b3ta! Grampa, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:33, archived)
# Or moving abroad
(Willboy:, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:35, archived)
# tell it to the FAQ
.. and the people with download limits
.. and people who don`t see having a fast connection as a reason to see it clogged to the point of feeling like being on dial up

the point of compression is to make efficient use of bandwith, not force people to pay more for a faster connection
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:41, archived)
# Download limits
Popped through mine last night, so they cut my service to a 10th of the speed. It's like being back in the dark ages.

Who the hell sets a cap at 10 gig?
(Dark Lord, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:48, archived)
# 10 gig? there`s a few people here with 1GB limits
that they pay through the teeth for :\

count yourself lucky little fella


NeoThermic
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:51, archived)
# Ok, Ok,
It is now 7008 bytes. Happy?

NeoThermic
(NeoThermic Mon 9 Apr, 22:49, Fri 13 Apr, 16:28, Wed 19 May, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:55, archived)
# How is * these days? nice weather?
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:29, archived)
# *y *y night....
paint your palette blue and grey

or paint your wagon.. what-EVER
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:30, archived)
# eyes that know the darkness in my soul
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:37, archived)
# *Take your Oyster card, and
(Dooley, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:30, archived)
# shove it up your arse?
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:31, archived)
# hole*
La la la la!
(Dooley, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:32, archived)
# Directions?

(Dark Lord, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:31, archived)
# arf
nice one
(I helped save b3ta! mrlogic is copying your beard, Tue 15 Nov 2005, 17:39, archived)