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# Meme, anyone?

bindun?
(ZOMFG! LOLLER ROFLCOPTOR LMAO etc, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 12:54, archived)
# WOO!
nice one.

i'm in a pickle now, zoo have asked to use this image.

CFB

on one hand they can go fuck themselves, but on the other it does have the wank spanner in it.

i think i need a ruling from waspy.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 12:58, archived)
# wank spanner meme excapes into RL?!!!
are you sure you want to be responsible for that?!

/edit/ I'm not going to ninja that, I quite like 'excapes'
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 12:59, archived)
# at least it wasn't exgapes
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:09, archived)
# *gapes*
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:11, archived)
# hello...
hello...
hello...
hello...
hello...
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:15, archived)
# shirley thats a b3ta in-joke?
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:00, archived)
# Tell 'em to fuck off
It seems like they don't want to pay for anything but also want full rights to something. Which is a bit hard to sign away if you don't own copyright on some of the source material.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:02, archived)
# ^^ this
if they don't want to pay, don't let em have it.
(I helped save b3ta! Chorizowagon Came wandering back on, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:04, archived)
# Can he charge...
...anything for it, given that he doesn't own the copyright for the poster image? I don't know copyright law except to know that all those mp3s I don't download are totally illegal! :)
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:06, archived)
# at least you know how to spell it
:)
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:08, archived)
# Of course...
I T

Simple!

/is a child blog
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:11, archived)
# he created the image as is.
it's derivative works.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:14, archived)
# But signing over full rights
involves signing rights for the original source image as used doesn't it?

From what I understand (admittedly not all that much) you might be safe agreeing to single use rights for your derivative image but not full rights unless you have permission from the original source image owners.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:18, archived)
# You only offer the rights to publish as is anyway
You should always make sure there are no sell on rights or transfer of intellectual property rights.

You can say to zoo ' publish this with credit in the one issue you have asked for and I retain all IP rights' and I'm sure they will agree.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:26, archived)
# That's what I thought
I jjust got the impression that they were trying to get people to agree to passing on all rights, which is pretty normal behaviour for journalists.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:34, archived)
# that's what they have in their
'small print' regarding user submitted works and is the same for most publications. These are not submitted but solicited and if you read the GAZ they send there is no implication that they are asking for rights to be given up.
Some people are just confusing those points.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:39, archived)
# as for a credit to 'zoo is a shit rag for fuckwits'
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:05, archived)
# When I was asked I took the stance of
ignore. People are not quite correct in saying that you give up copyright in these cases. They are nut user submitted images ( as mentioned in their terms ) but solicited content. My personal view is that if they could give expensive prizes to 'readers' for submitting our work then why can't they offer the same to us when they solicit it?
It's up to you but the more b3tans cave to seeing their name in zoo then the less likely zoo will ever realize that they don't get fuck all for fuck all.
It's the principle.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:12, archived)
# aye
i think a fuck off was on the cards anyway, but i just wanted a quick gauge of opinion.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:24, archived)
# I was considering approaching
TGA, ghosty, toasty and basically the usual suspects who got thieved a lot with the idea of a e-meet to discuss writing a collaborative letter on behalf of b3ta explaining that this idea of theirs is never going to take off but if emap want to enter into discussion that we at b3ta might consider contributing to their mags with due credit, retention of IP rights and some agreeable form of compensatory offer.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:31, archived)
# You'd be better off speaking to a lawyer.
You know, someone that knows what they're doing with that kind of thing.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:33, archived)
# Of course.
But I'd only consider that something worth doing if we were at a point where they were at least open to discussion about it. You need to get a discourse going first. And contrary to the impression we give myself, GA and a fair few others here are quite business and legal savvy.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:41, archived)
# Aren't we all?
That's why I suggest the lawyer. You don't get any negotiation points by writing angry, idealistic letters.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:44, archived)
# Then I'll not approach you to contribute
as I think 'angry and idealistic' would be the last place to start. ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:46, archived)
# What they're actually asking you to do...
is submit the image to them.

The email address they give is the one for spam submissions. Therefore, if you email them saying it's OK to print, they treat that as a normal "spam" submission.


(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:36, archived)
# How do you know?
Are you assuming that? All it takes is the correct wording to ensure that's not the case.
They are soliciting work via the GAZ, they can't deny otherwise.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:44, archived)
# yes
by Madness
some years ago
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Thu 26 Jul 2007, 12:58, archived)
# TONIGHT WE DARN IN HELL!!!
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 12:59, archived)
# even sock looks sexy with a beard
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:00, archived)
# i have a beard!
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:01, archived)
# ergo you are sexeh
possibly
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:02, archived)
# hang on...
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:04, archived)
# oooooh!!!
aw what a little sweety you are!!!

now gaz me a picture of your face hahah
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:12, archived)
# =(
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:14, archived)
# It only counts...
...if it's on your face!
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:04, archived)
# it's worth two in the bush though
as the saying goes
(I helped save b3ta! Debbilgrrrrl is kinda back, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:05, archived)
# damn....
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:06, archived)
# Darn in Hell
hahaha
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:01, archived)
# DIVE !
Love this, do you they well ever have a Madness Ft Blessed single
(Philip_newzealand, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:04, archived)
# dagnabbit
(I helped save b3ta! VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Thu 26 Jul 2007, 13:50, archived)