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# Just pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, 'cos there's bugger all down 'ere on Earth ...


CFB
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 15:55, archived)
# huh?
*drools*
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 15:57, archived)
# *glees*
Also my washing machine is borked so I had to go to the laundette. I love laundrette detergents. This one appears to be made by International Rescue.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 15:59, archived)
# Siccura Internazional?
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:01, archived)
# HARNESS THE POWER OF RAIN FOREST
RAIN FOREST IS CLEAN
(I helped save b3ta! Hamster Trippin' aka Mr. Titts, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:01, archived)
# you are barry scott.
AICMFP.
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:14, archived)
# I love laundettes
'Limpness al fresco causes profanities'?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:01, archived)
# only as part of a calorie controller diet.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:03, archived)
# Well that's ok then
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:04, archived)
# never chat up girls in laundrettes
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:08, archived)
# That appears to be advice given from experience.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:08, archived)
# haha!
girls grannies and chavs
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:14, archived)
# That would be good advice anyway
Whether they were in a laundrette or not
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:18, archived)
# =D
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:19, archived)
# err
"Clean fresh and powerful"
(I helped save b3ta! Pope Yoda is OLD, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:05, archived)
# Mine's better
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:13, archived)
# EL MAIQUELYASON!
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:07, archived)
# rain forest?
full of spiders and monkey shite?
=)
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:13, archived)
# The bugger all down here thinks it's very pretty
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 15:59, archived)
# Merci
I've long thought the relationship between macro- & micro- to appear to be fascinatingly similar - from an atomic level to interplanetary, though I know little of the laws that govern them.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:05, archived)
# If you get into quantum explanations of the atomic level, it'll be less striking.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:10, archived)
# Unless you believe in hidden-variables
Then it gets a bit tidier again. But you will be called a loon, and with some justification.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:13, archived)
# Ah, I vaguely remember all this.
I think in the end I mostly agreed with Bohm. And this just reminds me how much I've managed to forget in just a couple of years.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:19, archived)
# The problem with the Bohmian approach
is that you assume something totally ridiculous at the outset to justify a result you know to be true. I like it but I don't really believe it for a moment.

Unless I'm meaning something very different by the Bohmian approach but I don't think so. You arbitrarily change you potential and then recover Schroedinger's equation, right?
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:27, archived)
# My memory is a little hazy, but I think he set up something mathematically equivalent to schroedinger, probably with random assumptions, yes.
I remember very pretty drawings showing that instead of a probabilistic approach, you can show deterministic paths for particles diffracting through a slit.
Where basically, the path of the particle is determined by exactly which part of the slit it passes through, under the influence of some kind of 'quantum force field'.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:31, archived)
# Yep, that's the one :)
I like it and in the unlikely event that I ever have to teach people quantum mechanics that's how I'll start it off, but personally I don't take it very seriously although there are people who do. I also don't take the many-worlds nonsense at all seriously although there are people who do.

I pity anyone I'll ever teach quantum mechanics to.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:35, archived)
# Haha, it's more intuitive but the maths was pretty horrible if I remember rightly.
I think the best we can really do is be pragmatic, use the formulas that we know work brilliantly, and leave the interpretation to philosophers.
I can't really see us being able to distinguish between them experimentally.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:40, archived)
# damn straight
my view exactly. feynam once slagged off physicists for being obsessed with a theory of everything and said "they're just algorithms" and i think there's a lot in what he said.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:43, archived)
# Yeah so I've heard
But I'm not nearly intelligenter enough to unnerstand it. I mean - I still have trouble understanding why, when I tilt a picture of a lady in a skirt, I can't see up it.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:14, archived)
# Ah, noone understands that.
Pictures of ladies in skirts will forever be a mystery.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:16, archived)
# I think they're all using gaffer tape
It's the only explanation that makes any sense to me :(
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:18, archived)
# Ah, well this is where we differ.
I think sellotape.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:20, archived)
# Both work
But I'm sticking with the gaffer tape.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:25, archived)
# "Can we have your liver then...?"
Very nice, by the way. :)
(I helped save b3ta! Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Tue 15 Apr 2008, 16:10, archived)