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# Both.
And to make matters worse he's got a bloody degree in business management.

I fucking don't and OH LOOK I don't bollocks up everything.

*seethes*
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:04, archived)
# ah..
I won't say anything then as it'll just make you m ore angry
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:05, archived)
# Nah go for it.
I'm calming down due to judicious application of tea, sarnie, b3ta and a joyous hour to myself.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:06, archived)
# exactly the kind of muppet that gets promoted to their level of incompetance
and ends up on 70.. 80... and more and more K per year while berating the competance of everyone who actually does the work

and then there's the fucknuggets doing postgrad business stuff and they can barely tie their own shoelaces without electrocuting themselves
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:09, archived)
# I've got no degree
no nothing, just a pointless NVQ, some A levels and a lot of experience (although am still quite a rarity in our firm, management do tend to be quite a bit older than myself and two other girls on my team).

You're right though, give him a few years and he'll be on four times the salary I am.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:10, archived)
# and his secretary will be doing his job for him
meh :(
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:11, archived)
# Unfuckingfair.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:11, archived)
# c'est la vie, innit
if you can, I'd advise getting a degree, to anyone really

it makes a somewhat arbitrary difference
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:14, archived)
# Yeah, the day I can afford to take time off to do it
is probably the day I retire anyway.

Eventually I'll go part time, hopefully, and go and do my Anthro degree.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:17, archived)
# yeah :/
it's pretty fucked up all in all

ah well, at least you have us to amuse you :D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:19, archived)
# *thanks the Big Man for small mercies*
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:21, archived)
# *squeaks like a little mercy*
:D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:22, archived)
# ^this
im studying engineering to get a better paid job...untill i found out that i need to earn a fucking Masters Degree to qualify as a European certified engineer...

im now going to leave uni with over 27K in debt

(I helped save b3ta! Sir T. Skellington, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:19, archived)
# Bloody England.
Where shall we all move to? Holland or Germany?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:20, archived)
# Spain.
In particular, Tarifa.

It's nice there.
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:22, archived)
# Noooo too hot.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:26, archived)
# Not really.
It's quite windy there. It'll keep you cool. Well, cooler than the 45 degree inferno of a couple of miles inland.
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:31, archived)
# Possibly then.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:32, archived)
# crikey
still, if you are crazy enough a years' working in the joyful haven that is saudi arabia for some random oil/death company will pay it off



(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:22, archived)
#
he's got a bloody degree in business management nothing
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:06, archived)
# *fonzie fingers* exactamundo.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:07, archived)
# Degrees in management....
a neat excuse for having no common sense or wit whatsoever.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:07, archived)
# Yes, most definitely.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:09, archived)
# sadly it qualifies you to earn tens of thousands more than everyone else
it's scary
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:10, archived)
# Hey! We've got one of those as well!
He got a first class honours degree no less...

He is a spud.

I sympathise deeply.

*hugs*
(I helped save b3ta! Sonic James Doom forgetting the date since... umm..., Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:07, archived)
# How the fuck does it work?
That'll teach me to hire temps based on qualification.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:08, archived)
# Well...
it's difficult though. They're theoretically got a bit of paper that says they can do something...

Thing is, I've got a music degree, but there are untrained musicians out there a squillion times better than I am...

Paper. It makes no sense.
(I helped save b3ta! Sonic James Doom forgetting the date since... umm..., Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:16, archived)
# Hang on,
Right, now I've got a bit of paper saying that I've got a degree. I'm going to go and waggle it at my boss until she pays me a decent amount.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:19, archived)
# Keep us posted on the results.
I predict a salary boost of between 10-100%
(I helped save b3ta! Sonic James Doom forgetting the date since... umm..., Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:30, archived)
# *hopes*
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:33, archived)
# This sort of thing is exactly why I quit permanent work.

I'm sick and tired of having to deal with people that are an utter waste of biomass and yet think that because they're a manager, they're somehow more important than people that actually do the work.
People that think that managing is a skill are fuckwits. Dealing with other people is exactly what humans are fucking well evolved to do. It's the whole point of being human. And yet these people think that going on a course or whatever makes them some sort of fucking people genius.

The sad news is that the contract market is dead, so I might just have to go back to permanent work again. :( *sobs*
(I helped save b3ta! wheelybird mreee!, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:27, archived)
# I struggle through.
Meh, it's just a job. Means to an end.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 23 Apr 2008, 12:31, archived)