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# forgive my fading memory...but did tin tin ever go to the moon?
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:35, archived)
# most certainly
in 2 books, no less.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:38, archived)
# one would think that books would burn up on re-entry
TinTin was clearly a racist warlock
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:39, archived)
# I know he was great wasn't he?
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:41, archived)
# yeah
it would have been better if we was a racist warlock... or from Middlesbrough like he is in the cartoons.

(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:43, archived)
# Well, Tintin in the Congo
does take a little explaining, I'll grant you.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:44, archived)
# is that how Tin Tin's not allowed on the One show anymore
"how' - nignogs... white Belgians are superior and that..."
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:48, archived)
# Herge
was a clear racist and he absolutely hated the British.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:49, archived)
# Again -
being a personal acquaintance of the Remi family has allowed you this insight?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:02, archived)
# oh fuck off.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:10, archived)
# Pithy,
like it.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:18, archived)
# I have no idea what the fuck got into you.
You were always an agreeable chap and I enjoyed our conversations even if we disagreed but lately your comments are barbed and meant to provoke rather than promote debate.
I would have thought, being that you are usually a decent chap that before you turned on me for no reason I can discern that you might have had the decency to discuss with me what the problem was. It's not like you'd stand next to me in the pub and just keep poking me because you find it amusing now is it?
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:21, archived)
# I'm not poking you.
I am not!
I'm just a little peeved about the 'absolutism' of some of your posts.

As regards the above, Yes Herge was a bigoted fuck, but so little is really known about him, I find it difficult not to react when sweeping generalisations are given out as incontrovertible truths.

That's all - nothing else. Honestly, nothing else.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:26, archived)
# I should not have to explain Herge
and certainly not to anyone well read.
Herge was a racist. This is because he is a product of the times and the imperialistic attitudes of central Europe then. He'd be hard pressed to be anything else although the concept of racism would probably be confusing to him and his peers.
He was anti-British because of his pro French nationalism stance and the two ideas would be opposite.
These are things written about him in a number of articles and biographies.
The fact that I don't support it with the huge essays you dislike and also being that the statement is sweeping because of that means I can't win. Does not mean I'm wrong.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:33, archived)
# No, you don't need to explain Herge.
I know about the 'number of articles and biographies'. I have several of them, as he is an interesting figure, not only for his art.

Since you seem determined to take offence, please note:

My issue is with your absolutism, which comes across as supremely arrogant, although I suspect this is not your intent.
You are very selective about how you frame counter-argument, for instance: I never said I 'dislike huge essays', but it suits your purpose to misquote and create a false impression of aggression on my part.

The last line of your above post somewhat makes the case, I'd happily admit I'm wrong. I've not once see you do it - to repeat: 'absolutism'.

*That's* what I was saying.



(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:42, archived)
# *gasp*
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:39, archived)
# Not as good as 'The Calculus Affair'
but worth your time all the same.

/all the books in English, Flemish, and a few in Luxembourgoise dialect blog
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:42, archived)
# ah yes i remember that one.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:48, archived)
# A GOAT AM I????
Make way for the goat!

I loved the tintin books.. My parents made me join the local library, presumably to get me interested in reading. They were very disappointed when all I kept bringing home to read was Tintin and Asterix...

My personal favourite was the Land of Black Gold where the Thom(p)son's ate those dodgy aspirins...
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:54, archived)
# And don't forget the video game.
By Infogrames if my memory serves me. Had it on the amiga.
(Jeru War and Piss, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:47, archived)
# looks like it...I think it was faked
www.calicocatbooks.com/Book_Notes/emoon.jpg
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:39, archived)
# my local library mustn't have had it :(
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:40, archived)
# even before actual people went there

I have the first edition of both moon albums. They're both massive.
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:40, archived)
# can I be in your will?
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:40, archived)
# They're not in very good condition though
They used to be my dad's
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:41, archived)
# still those sort of things are valuables, my old man has broons annuals.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:43, archived)
# I'll be more careful with them
;)
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:44, archived)
# and he received enjoyment
from being unkind to books?
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:45, archived)
# Quite so
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:54, archived)
# they'll be worth a bit :)

not that you'd sell them..quality thing to have
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:45, archived)
# Yeah, they're awesome albums
All big and square. About the size of an LP record.
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:55, archived)
# who cares?
Andy Serkis as Haddock with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost as the Thomson twins? Brilliant, moon or not.
However, digital 3D? What's that about, come on Jackson, no need to bugger about with fly by night tech.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:47, archived)
# Arf! "fly by night tech"
You'll give luddites a bad name, sir.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:50, archived)
# seriously?
What use is digital 3D to anyone but a handful of spotty Yank geeks who will go to the cinema so they can tell their spotty geek mates what a 'blast' they had and 'man, I thought it was going to hit me in the face' ( I wish something would ).
The majority of viewers in this day and age will be watching movies from the comfort of their own home where all that expense and gimmickry will be wasted.
Just make the film FFS and stop dragging out a tech that has failed in every decade it has been briefly revived since House of Wax.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 13:59, archived)
# Best you judge when you see the film.
How about that for a radical approach?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:01, archived)
# That's my point.
I'll see the film of course and I'll be watching it in my home on my TV from a DVD.
So I'll not be able to judge the 3D element just as the majority of other viewers won't.
I don't read anywhere that I've been judging the film. I just don't understand the need to make it in 3D. It's not exactly made 'bloody valentine' the hit of the decade has it?

I'm not sure what your vested interest is here or if you just want to join the wagon of people who'd like to prod me at any given opportunity but I expressed an opinion that 3D always fails and given that record and the fact that not all the viewers will have that experience when they see it I personally don't understand the need to pursue it. Hardly judging the film.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:09, archived)
# I'll be sure to forward your thoughts onto
Messrs Jackson, Spielberg, et al.

Just so you are really clear:

I never said you were judging the film (that would be tricky since it's not even made yet), merely that you could do so *after* watching. But, as ever, your *perception* of what was said took you rather far from what was *actually* said.
But, don't let that stop you.
I know it won't.

Edit: Having skipped the majority of your essay above, I missed this - "prod me at any given opportunity"
What? Are you 12 or something?
Get over it!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:16, archived)
# The film is fully CG
making a 3D version would be trivial.
(I helped save b3ta! Bloop Fri 16 Jul, 22:10, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:17, archived)
# I remember when they made Jaws 3 in 3D
That was kind of cool.

Except that it was Jaws 3.
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:20, archived)
# is someone making a tintin film?
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:01, archived)
# Well, if they aren't
Pasanonic seems to be well tooled-up in the arts of cinematography, perhaps we should ask him to do it.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:04, archived)
# * sits back an awaits another mammoth thread about the virtues or otherewise of the use of technology and effects in modern cinema
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:07, archived)
# *logs out for the duration*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 10 Feb 2009, 14:10, archived)